Bombers talk it up at trade week

Give us something Paul.... We have been a mediocre football club for ten years yet every trade week we act as though our list is great. I know we're improving but I'd love to see a bit more aggression at the trade table. Confusing.

- stewart mccallum (posted 12/10/2011 5:02:14 PM)

BLIMEY CHARLIE!!! It's time EFC got PRO-ACTIVE in trade week and not RE-ACTIVE like the way we have been playing lately. Sometimes the biggest problem at football clubs is overrating your own playing group. Lets be honest people, we are showing some promising signs of returning to the Bombers of old, but really we are a mile of the mark. It's time for some fresh blood and new challengers. COME ON, TRADE TRADE TRADE.

- Brett Juka (posted 12/10/2011 5:13:41 PM)

"TradeWeekRadio Bombers a "nightmare to deal with" at the trade table according to @ThommoN23 #tradeweek" Why? We scraped into 8th, still have massive holes in our list (quality mid and accountable small defender) and this is an opportunity for us to improve. Disappointed.

- Jackson Dunkley (posted 12/10/2011 5:15:21 PM)

Get Fev before Hawthorn does

- Jeanette Jennings (posted 12/10/2011 5:16:23 PM)

Please Essendon it is blatantly obvious we need a midfielder. I heard rumours that Adelaide want Ricky Dyson, maybe we could get something decent for him.

- Joel Fruci (posted 12/10/2011 5:16:35 PM)

Stewy, you are right on the money bud. Get aggressive in there team, you never know what we can conger up. As unsuccessful the Williams part of the trade from the Hawthorn was, we still ended up with young gun Jakey Carlisle. Heads down and get in hard recruiters.

- Brett Juka (posted 12/10/2011 5:18:53 PM)

I agree, Stewart. We need to be proactive this week. While we have a talented up-and-coming list, we have deficiencies, particularly in the midfield. We should offer up one of our talls/rucks and see if a club offers a quality middie. The compromised draft is not likely to get us anything...

- Justin Bassi (posted 12/10/2011 5:22:45 PM)

Trouble is Stewart - Our lesser players have no value, Our older players have no value, and our good young players are untradable. It makes it very hard. Anyone expecting us to be able to land a great player or a star is dreming. It's not as easy as people seem to think.

- Andrew Couch (posted 12/10/2011 5:24:00 PM)

Everyones very quiet, hoping there's some good news not far away. I keep hearing we are in talks with richmond.

- Alan Pratt (posted 12/10/2011 5:31:27 PM)

Fantastic comment Stewart, I agree totally. Our list definitely needs work. We cant just hope for the best. Time to try and bring the best to the club even if it means losing talent. Cant win every trade, nothing wrong with win-win.

- Andrew Winters (posted 12/10/2011 5:31:53 PM)

I could not agree more. We have too many small, medium sized players of about the same "average" standard and too many quality young talls. We can't play all the talls at once so lets give up something to get something good back. Like a quick, skilled, hard, midfielder. We wish!

- Duane Brache (posted 12/10/2011 5:39:16 PM)

trade and improve i agree stewart

- Norman Barr (posted 12/10/2011 5:41:23 PM)

hawthorn got what they need and wanted when are we going to do the same

- Norman Barr (posted 12/10/2011 5:51:30 PM)

thats all we have done for years talk never any action

- Norman Barr (posted 12/10/2011 5:54:43 PM)

@Stewart Mccallum Couldn't have said it better myself mate you are spot on.

- Toryn Kasa (posted 12/10/2011 5:57:31 PM)

Stewart, I totally agree, its no surprise that the Hawthorn's and Collingwood's & Geelong's are always pro active in trade week and look where they are on the ladder. Yes we have improved this year but we all know that without new blood in the team we cant hope for much more improvement.

- Marc Atkins (posted 12/10/2011 5:57:42 PM)

i agree stewart. carlton who ended up 4th or 5th on the ladder, has thrashed us by 79 to 80 points at last 2 occasions. some of our existing players are too old or unfit to improve. we definitely need some trade action.i they think they can win a flag with this list, they have their heads in the sand. we keep seeing good players go to other clubs. DO SOMETHING !

- Ron Currie (posted 12/10/2011 6:01:22 PM)

Agree with Stewart. We always seem to be scared to use trade week. Our list is pretty weak with young potential, but potential doesn't always play out. We have too many small to midsized slow players with no great skill. Mcveigh, Lonergan, Slattery, Stanton, Colyer, Dyson, Howlett, Melksham. We only need 4 of these guys. Don't be sentimental and get tough.

- Michael Walters (posted 12/10/2011 6:21:40 PM)

Why cant we try and get a good midfielder, to find a young one in the draft with poor picks would be a longshot. I would look at knights(crows) or ellis from the hawks.

- Chris Steffen (posted 12/10/2011 6:22:28 PM)

Agree...would like to see us be a bit more aggressive and at least get something for Dyson, Slattery ect...we should be doing everything we can to land a quality mid

- Andrew Cichello (posted 12/10/2011 6:31:05 PM)

id be happy just to better our draft position somehow snare a top 5 - 10 pick and get a promising mid with that we are still a few years off the mark but with the new facility looking could fast track the development... unless we could get a sam mitchell only 4 years younger type... maybe a dangerfield or a really classy onballer... but inject a bit more youth with a top 10 pick. maybe get lovett and fev in the draft... lovett is pacey and we all know fev can kick a bag. and is good for atleast 3 weekly... i reckon we miss lovett's explosive pace

- Ian Welsh (posted 12/10/2011 6:42:55 PM)

Haven't had a big signing for many years, actually I cant remember our last big signing! In my opinion our best trade was my favorite player of the time Neville Fields for Terry Daniher, huge win for us, and Nifty Nev came back as well although past his brilliant best by then. Can anyone else think of a better trade coz it's sad news to think that was the last time we won at the trade table. cheers, Paul.

- Paul Herbert (posted 12/10/2011 6:43:57 PM)

hooker stanton dyson for a decent mid

- Nathan Williams (posted 12/10/2011 6:44:23 PM)

lets not forget we were in the 8 and the impact him not being there a year later had... we failed miserably... but got dys heppell in return so it wasnt all bad

- Ian Welsh (posted 12/10/2011 6:45:04 PM)

cant believe we don't attack at trade week and try pick up some premium players which we really lack but we seem to take no interest or pick up old wasted players like mark williams, really irritates me

- luke marshall (posted 12/10/2011 6:51:04 PM)

Taite Silverlock Tyson Slattery James Webster Jay Neagle.... did we maybe delist some of these guys with out seeing if they had any value on the trade table

- Ian Welsh (posted 12/10/2011 6:51:36 PM)

Why trade out guns to get guns in. Clubs are too smart for that now. Essendon are in no win situation unless someone wants to give us a gun for nothing. Otherwise we keep building from draft.

- Dan Lennon (posted 12/10/2011 7:05:25 PM)

Look at the track record over the past 10 years up to recently: Mark Williams & Brent Prismall. Dons stay away from the Trade table unless Draft Picks are on the table.

- Jonathan Woods (posted 12/10/2011 7:09:53 PM)

YOU HAVE TO GIVE A GOOD PLAYER AWAY, IN ORDER TO GET A GOOD PLAYER. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF WE DO ANYTHING. ANNE. BRIAR HILL.

- anne aa (posted 12/10/2011 7:17:27 PM)

I heed the words of some other club's representitives when they say "late in the week". Why rush. Shop around. See what's really on offer, what it costs us, and if the deal is too good to refuse...bang!! Otherwise, why take on other's baggage. use the draft and the PSD.

- Wesley Hull (posted 12/10/2011 7:36:46 PM)

Our list is improving, but not great. Gumbleton, Dyson, Lovett-Murray atleast would be offered for trade

- Johann Sebastian-Wilson (posted 12/10/2011 7:46:16 PM)

i agree stewart it is always sad to lose players but if its going to get us closer to a premiership so be it.i personally think we need another gun midfielder have we thought about giving lovett another chance he was innocent afterall and would have grown up alot just like krakour.

- Brett Martin (posted 12/10/2011 7:48:21 PM)

trade Noel for 5 Melbourne Storm supporters.

- Margaret Dickson (posted 12/10/2011 7:58:35 PM)

Hate it that bombers have done nothin much in trade wk for yrs.also players who say wanna go to hawthorn and hawthorn make that happen...no one wants to come to essendon..and whatever u do bombers keep hooker unless u get a gun midfielder fofget it.

- Peter Sprenger (posted 12/10/2011 8:19:17 PM)

Stewart, I dont think trading is the future is it? Drafting is the way to go. Look at the cats, they traded for Ottens and pretty much drafted the rest of there current premiership side. We have gone down the the Mark Williams/M.Allan/J.Murphy/S.Campo/M.Alvey/T.Zantuck road before and got us no where. Keep our picks and draft the next Heppell and Hurley.

- Sam Bates (posted 12/10/2011 8:24:56 PM)

just wasted 90 seconds of my life to learn nothing

- anastasia Meek (posted 12/10/2011 8:32:26 PM)

i cant believe bombers didnt at least try to trade for o'meara!

- Leonard Clark (posted 12/10/2011 8:52:06 PM)

Dont wanna force anything and shoot ourselves in the foot.. bit more dead wood to get rid of, and then we should trade up for more/higher picks, get fresh kids around hirdy/thompson for moulding

- Brent Smith (posted 12/10/2011 9:58:28 PM)

Please don't go for Setanta O'Helpless..we do not need anyone that bad..

- Brian McKenna (posted 12/10/2011 10:27:00 PM)

totally agree with you there stewart, we seem to be to attatched to fringe players, and cannot make hard the hard calls, need to take a few risks i think to try make some decent improvement

- Andrew Searle (posted 12/10/2011 10:29:08 PM)

I think we need to chase an a-grade mid. We also need to get Hurley some help forward. What's happening with Joe Daniher?

- Steve Colakidis (posted 12/10/2011 11:43:49 PM)

Reading between the lines, they either have something up their sleeve or the players we have to offer are not good enough for other clubs...be patient Stewart..

- Gwenda Warfe (posted 13/10/2011 12:17:12 AM)

Well said stewart!

- John Blore (posted 13/10/2011 12:51:20 AM)

Well said stewart!

- John Blore (posted 13/10/2011 12:51:28 AM)

is o'halpan comming to bomberland ?

- Darren Pigott (posted 13/10/2011 1:05:02 AM)

Quite happy the way the coaches are going about trade week.They said they probably wouldnt participate in trade week,but are still talking to the clubs just incase.I dont see any reason to trade,just for the sake of trading.I also believe we have the best list we have the best list we have had in quite awhile.Diane

- Diane Trask (posted 13/10/2011 1:45:27 AM)

I hate to see any of our players moved on, but there must be someone somewhere that could improve the team? The thing is who do we trade?, obviously anyone who plays most of the season in the vfl should be looked at.

- Terry Collins (posted 13/10/2011 2:22:28 AM)

Please give us something this year Bombers, the last time we picked up a good trade was Sean Wellman from the Crows in 1996.

- Robert C (posted 13/10/2011 8:17:20 AM)

Very conservative as usual and not good enough. To think the list is good enough is comical. Ralph Lepore.

- Ralph Ralph (posted 13/10/2011 8:35:59 AM)

you are spot on stewart

- angelo massaro (posted 13/10/2011 8:51:44 AM)

You have to be kidding us -Bombers wont go too far n/year with the current list -Maybe there is something the Dons know that we all dont -Hope so!!!

- Louis Cypher (posted 13/10/2011 9:10:46 AM)

I agree, Stewart. While we have a talented up-and-coming list, we have deficiencies, particularly in the midfield. We should offer up one of our talls/rucks (and throw in some fringe players) and see if other clubs are willing to offer a quality young middie in return (Dangerfield would be nice). With the compromised draft, we can't just sit back and do nothing.

- Justin Bassi (posted 13/10/2011 9:25:10 AM)

Not great when you hear Gunston saying on SEN the club was too late in showing interest in trading for him. Hoping we are more proffessional that it came across.

- Scott McNeice (posted 13/10/2011 9:46:41 AM)

I'd like to think we could do more than just "talk it up" Paul. How about getting someone who will advance our cause in 2012 ? You know, like Hawthorn and Collingwood do ! What about Walsh at St Kilda ?

- Mary Tovey (posted 13/10/2011 10:38:00 AM)

Don't know if my last comment made it through, but nonetheless I'm still extremely disappointed that we are trumped year after year by other clubs like Hawthorn who trade aggressively while we sit smugly on our hands, declaring our list adequate. Are we fair dinkum?

- Dennis Green (posted 13/10/2011 10:51:34 AM)

isnt it funny how when we all agree on a subject EFC does not this has happened so many times this year.

- Brett Martin (posted 13/10/2011 11:12:40 AM)

at least good old welshy did the right thing now we just need mcveigh and davy to follow suit.

- Brett Martin (posted 13/10/2011 11:13:32 AM)

The trouble is most players available aren't worth a pair of Reimers flashy boots.....have patience Bomber fans.

- Kevin Jackson (posted 13/10/2011 11:20:30 AM)

I put my trust in the coaching staff. Why do a trade if there is no one suitable just because it is trade week? The coaches may have someone they want in the November draft and are just staying quiet as they did with Tyson Heppell.

- Margaret Livingstone (posted 13/10/2011 11:21:49 AM)

Thanks to Andrew Crouch for giving us some logical thinking.

- Ian Moore (posted 13/10/2011 11:26:02 AM)

Nathan Williams would give away Brent Stanton, arguably our best mid-fielder, plus two other players, to get one "decent mid". A very cunning plan.

- Ian Moore (posted 13/10/2011 11:32:17 AM)

Disappointed my comment didn't get thru - wonder why??? I thought this is a free country and a place where we can express our opinions. No abuse - no derogatary remarks - only the truth about how we are perceived by other clubs during this trade period. No - one wants to deal with us - whilst others get their men we twiddle our thumbs !!!

- Terry Kucz (posted 13/10/2011 11:35:31 AM)

Talk of McVeigh/NLM retiring or otherwise is IMO ridiculous, these are two of our strongest players around the contest, how can you field one or two year players up against seasoned AFL players people ? I think some people need to see more games live and watch what's happening across the field and not just where the ball is !

- daniel stubbs (posted 13/10/2011 11:54:55 AM)

Of course, other teams will be only to happy to snap up our "slow players of no great skill". That's just what they are all looking for. And they will be desperate to give their "premium" players in return.

- Ian Moore (posted 13/10/2011 11:56:40 AM)

My Opinion is that there are around 10 to 15 on our list that no other club would want.Most of them have been gained over the last 5 or 6 years and really have never consistantly inproved or delivered.We need to strengthen that part of our list

- Shaun Demoni (posted 13/10/2011 12:12:14 PM)

Terry, I haven't rejected any of your comments. I don't know if it was a glitch or what, but if you care to rewrite it, I'll post it.

- Essendon Insider Temp (posted 13/10/2011 12:14:53 PM)

Just watch the top side how they use trade week, they don't just sit back and watch, thats why they are up & competitivly pushing for a flag & we are filling in the numbers, we have probably 20 players we could trade, unfortunately we only have about 10 that other clubs would want & we don't want to trade, notice how many of our players are being sought after, watch the strong get stronger..but, I suppose "we are still learning"

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 12:16:40 PM)

We have to SPECULATE to ACCUMULATE....maybe they might surprise us

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 12:22:16 PM)

This may take a bit but here goes...We don't need mids!!! Jobe, Zaka, Hocks, have it sewn up. We have plenty of players to rotate through the midfield. Heppell, Hardingham, Ross, Colyer, Lonergan and even Crameri(yeah)makes a very strong midfield. We need experience! Besides Fletch, our experienced players (Hille, McVeigh, Lovett-Murray) won't likely be regular senior players next year. BRENDAN GODDARD brings it all. Experince, strength, skill, poise, courage and leadership. And with the direction that respective clubs are headed, I'm sure a move to Essendon would suit Brendan.

- Josh Byrne (posted 13/10/2011 12:25:37 PM)

Thanks EIT - When an athlete like Jack Gunston intimates his preference would be to come to EFC and we sit back & state we'll develop our own it is extremely frustrating and annoying to do nothing. Why? Are we so over loaded with exceptional athletes and talent that we can just let them walk away? This kid supported Essendon!!! Why do Hawthorn,select their priority player and inevitably "snare"him? We used to be like this once - but no!! more. Show some resolve Bombers and get back that mongrel we once had - we are weak and timid and not too many take us seriously any more.

- Terry Kucz (posted 13/10/2011 12:29:23 PM)

Paul, 1994 we traded Tony Delaney to Freo & got SCOTTY LUCAS and 1995 we traded Todd Ridley to yep, Freo & got MATTY LLOYD, wonder who we could trade to Freo this week ?? any of about 15ish on our list who no one else would want

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 12:35:56 PM)

Hirdy, Bomber, Dodoro and co. aren't as stupid as some of our supporters are suggesting they are, they will be watching and listening to everything that is going on in this trade period, and will do a deal if they think it will improve our team. Don't think that because they aren't telegraphing their punches they aren't prepared to do anything. Also, to get something good, you have to give something at least as good. Six fringe players won't get us a Dangerfield.

- Gordon Moss snr (posted 13/10/2011 12:36:09 PM)

cont. Surely we could get Goddard? Stanton, Monfries and Davey For Goddard and a future 3rd round draft pick(used for father-son hehe) seems like a great deal for both clubs. I also agree with Ian Welsh on FEV and Lovett. Think about it. We need a FF, desperately! We can't rely on our mids to kick big bags every week. JC isn't quite ready and may be more suited to CHF or the ruck(don't like him down back), and Hurls needs to be a running CHF to control the play moving forward.

- Josh Byrne (posted 13/10/2011 12:40:58 PM)

Why do Hawthorn get the job done during the trade period every year.They are building a great list which will be hard to beat , so why can't we be more proactive.We all know our list is still a work in progress but why can't we deal Dyson to Freo for Walters a small forward which we need badly.Lets look at some mature aged footballers in state comps such as Hutchings ,Brabazon ,Blackwell , Horsley etc etc.They would be work a chance as a late pick or rookie spot.

- PETER DAVIES (posted 13/10/2011 12:43:50 PM)

Brett, the big difference is that Andrew put the club b4 his ego, we need someone who can make the hard calls, they are paid as professionals so should act like professionals & make decisions to get the club back up where we belong.

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 12:44:15 PM)

Hear, hear Terry, Pelchen got the Hawks going, now watch the Saints trade over the next coupla years, unfortunately when players like NLM, Colyer, Jetta, Spike, who are all triers, make our best 22 the future isn't very bright

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 12:53:13 PM)

cont. Fev can play. Out of the goal square with the quality of our midfield, he could kick 80+ next year. He still has 4 or 5 years left in him and he's a showman and he puts bums on seats. Some people take longer to mature mentally than others and in my book he hasn't really done anything that bad. He's a bad drunk and a worse gambler, ok, you can fix that. Fev to Brisbane was never going to work, Fev at Windy Hill can. Surely worth the risk.

- Josh Byrne (posted 13/10/2011 12:53:44 PM)

C'mon were not exactly the best team going around yet and were not going to get there if we stay quiet every single Trade Week, look at players and at least try to get what we need to get the Bombers back to the top!

- Tom Abbey (posted 13/10/2011 12:58:38 PM)

We have what is without a doubt every bomber supporters dream coaching team. So let them do what they know how to do best. Is there really an EFC supporter on this forum that is so arrogant that they truly believe they know more about footy than our collective coaching staff? I have 110% confidence that whatever is happening or not happening, apparent or not, will be in the best interest of the EFC and its supporters. So cease with the negativity will ya!!

- Joe Giret (posted 13/10/2011 1:00:55 PM)

cont. Taking risks...why not take a risk with Andrew Lovett? Another area we were exposed in this year was our lack of pace out of defence once Dempsey went down. Andy Lovett is quick! He also has silky skills! His run and delivery off HB would be very handy next year. Surely under the watchful eyes of Sir James and Bomber Fev and Lovett would be highly unlikely to step out of line. It would undoubtedly be the last chance for both men. And they are just men, give them a go.

- Josh Byrne (posted 13/10/2011 1:02:12 PM)

cont. And if everyone is so sure we need a gun midfielder, why not send Hille, Lovett-Murray, Dyson and Slattery to GWS for Tom Scully and a future 3rd round pick?

- Josh Byrne (posted 13/10/2011 1:08:12 PM)

Would like to see Hille offered to GWS while he still has a bit of currency for one of their numerous early picks to get a quality midfielder in. Ryder, Bellchambers, Jenkins, Joe Daniher can handle the ruck and Sheeds made Hille captain....

- Mark Petterson (posted 13/10/2011 1:11:13 PM)

BE CAREFUL! Be very careful. Essendon do not have a good track record at trade week. Zantuck, Camporeale, Wheildon, Williams, Grijic, Muprhy, Michael, Dale Kickett, Robran, Alvey, Skipworth, Darcy, Young, Fraser, Ukovic. How many of those gave anymore than 1 or 2 good years of service? None. McPhee aside (2003?), our performance at trade week over the past decade has been woeful. This is the primary reason for the Bombers lack of premiership contendership over the past 7-8 years.

- Daisy Graham (posted 13/10/2011 1:19:48 PM)

Sam Bates, we have been drafting the same way for a decade and where has it gotten us? Look at Collingwood, they went after Luke Ball Andrew Krakour, Leigh Brown etc and they have been outstanding recruits, premiership players in fact. I would love to see my footy club follow their lead, show some balls and really have a go. Wouldn't you all have liked to have seen Luke Ball in an Essendon jumper? We missed out on Judd, Burgoune the list goes on. But lets keep drafting the same way and watch the clubs above have all the success.

- stewart mccallum (posted 13/10/2011 1:22:53 PM)

I agree we should pick up Lovett and Fev, would rather those 2 taking up spots on our list than some others, the reward is far far greater than the risk !

- daniel stubbs (posted 13/10/2011 1:45:34 PM)

To those who are asking why we didn't get gunston, how many talls do you think we need? Are you forgetting about Ryder, Hurley, crameri, gummbleton, hooker, Fletcher, carlisle??? Why don't we get o'hailpin and fev while wer going and have an entire side of key position players.

- Aaron Rankin (posted 13/10/2011 1:45:44 PM)

Have any of our gun VFL players entered the draft in previous years ? we could pick them up via a GWS trade, does anyone know ?

- daniel stubbs (posted 13/10/2011 2:32:05 PM)

i should have said nominated EIT sorry instead of entered....

- daniel stubbs (posted 13/10/2011 2:33:11 PM)

Please please please - NO TO SETANTA! we could have kept Bradley and got the same thing - Dufus!

- Phillip Langwell (posted 13/10/2011 2:46:01 PM)

i feel like a real dog for saying it, cause i love the guy, but i completely agree with Hille to Gold Coast or GWS in exchange for an early round chance at a gun young mid. The TBell could well see him out of the team next year anyway and he could enjoy his last few seasons on a very decent wedge up north

- tim j (posted 13/10/2011 2:50:51 PM)

Hmm, Saints draft 2 mature talented players for 5 spots, from 20 to 25 in the shallow draft.. good drsfting

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 2:56:44 PM)

Daisy, I think you are right. Trade week is a little like a trash n treasure stall. Some gems, but lots of discards. The draft is more like the showroom with new models rolled in. Whispers regarding Brock McLean and Danyle Pearce are interesting, but do they address our long term needs? I'm not disappointed in our lack of perceived involvement, but would be if we traded for a lemon. Get the best deal, not the first. Complain on Monday.

- Wesley Hull (posted 13/10/2011 2:57:08 PM)

Well said Joe Giret !!

- Charles Taylor (posted 13/10/2011 3:08:22 PM)

Josh Byrne (posted 13/10/2011 1:08:12 PM) YOU ARE DREAMING !!! Dyson & Slattery can't get a game in Essendon's best 22 & Hille is on the wrong side of 30. NML is in & out of our best 22 & you think that GWS should jump at taking them and hand over SCULLY and a draft pick too !!! I want your phone number because I have some land to sell you with an ocean view when the tide is out !!! "Dreamer"

- Charles Taylor (posted 13/10/2011 3:14:29 PM)

As one former brat might say about another ongoing brat, "You cannot be SERious!!" Fevola to Essendon - delusional, short-sighted and just laughable. Why, when we are trying to develop a young team, with numerous tall/forward options, that is need of midfielders, would we recruit a proven disruptive, immature, attention-hogging, aging, one-dimensional menace like Fevola, who hasn't played at the highest level for almost two years? Think history, think longevity, think balance, think culture, think harmony, think requirements, just THINK, as a famous Franklin said. Thankfully we have coaches and recruiters who think about that, not in OI! OI! OI! highlight reels.

- Kris Bayne (posted 13/10/2011 3:18:51 PM)

I am dissappointed that essenon are not really active during trade week. Again clubs like Hawthorn seem to be able to manage good trades. Maybe our trade department needs an overhaul. Nothing ventured nothing gained!

- Wayne Haase (posted 13/10/2011 3:30:29 PM)

I am very glad most of you are not coaches/recruiters. Stanton and Monfries for Goddard, how many years has he got left? Trade NLM? one of the greatest utilities to ever play in my opinion. He makes team selection easier, pick the first 21 and slot him in to whatever position is left. Pick up Scully? come on folks, some of these comments are sickening. Fair weather supporters, I'm guessing.

- Kevin Jackson (posted 13/10/2011 3:36:10 PM)

There's a lot of "we need elite midfielders, why aren't we trading for any" going on here... How exactly is this supposed to happen? Given the stage that the list is at in its development, the best gains are to be made in the draft, not at the trade table.

- James Castleman (posted 13/10/2011 3:40:35 PM)

86 comments saying we need to be more aggressive yet not one person has suggested a decent player as bait. If you want to play ball in trade week suggest a decent player to trade. If i was another club i'd want a player like Hurley, Pears, Heppell, Ryder, even Bell Chambers. Who are you willing to give up?

- Richard Williams (posted 13/10/2011 3:45:46 PM)

Aaron, Fletch 1 more year, Hooker NOT a tall & too slow, ok HB, Carlisle MIGHT be ok, Crameri better HF & Gumby,who??, leaves us with Hurley & Paddy (ruck or key position), not much competition for spots, if they ruck paddy leaves Hurley as our only genuine tall key position player

- Mark McLachlan (posted 13/10/2011 3:52:24 PM)

Hooker& Davey to Adelaide for either Vince, Thompson,Dangerfield & Douglas & a 2nd draft pick

- George Kotoski (posted 13/10/2011 3:57:48 PM)

Ryder & Slattery for Cooney or for Foley and a 2nd draft pick?

- George Kotoski (posted 13/10/2011 4:02:20 PM)

I say we should do whatever we can to get a a strong midfielder Delideo or dangerfield level - if this means we trade hooker out then we go hard for toovey to replace him, so be it. - We need to use blokes like Hille / jenkins / dyson / hooker / NLM / / slattery / davey and I hate to say it but Lonergan as our currency. Hird knows what he's doing..

- Alan Pratt (posted 13/10/2011 4:27:45 PM)

Hooker, Dyson and pick 77 for Dangerfield

- Terry Smith (posted 13/10/2011 4:38:05 PM)

Toatally agree you don't get if you don't ask- it's funny all the people on this forum are naming the same players I have been trying to get rid of for two years-trouble is they are not worth much but surely you could package off Slattery,Davey,Dyson to Sheeds at GWS for a high draft pick or two and agree we should offload Hille- maybe to Hawks for C.Young and some of their left footers that can KICK properly.We should also be having a crack at Byrnes from Geelong- he can't get a game so must be willing to leave. Need inside mids and a FF as well!

- Mark Brooker (posted 13/10/2011 4:40:38 PM)

Nathan you have to be joking trading Stanton open yours eyes

- annette smith (posted 13/10/2011 4:55:58 PM)

Should trade Hille after the Elimination Final non Effort

- Mark Ashley (posted 13/10/2011 4:56:30 PM)

trade draft pick 19 for gram and get lovett with a late draft pick!!!

- louis carney (posted 13/10/2011 5:02:18 PM)

I'm not quite sure what people think is available out there, but what sort of player would you expect to get for Ricky Dyson or Henry Slattery? Not an elite mid-fielder! They are both good players so all you could expect to get are good players of similar value. It seems like a waste of time for us. Our list is more balanced than people seem to realise. Our mids are quality. They are young and have significant scope for improvement and we are blessed with quality talls. We will be fine without trades.

- Greg Sloan (posted 13/10/2011 5:14:32 PM)

@ Daisy (love your name) - yes our trading that you mention is due to a previous coach not being able to move with the evolution of the game. Josh Byrne, I think Dodoro is under no threat of you pinching his job! Wesley - you talk and make sense. Very funny Margarobert (sorry Noel - I had a chuckle)

- Brad Scarr (posted 13/10/2011 5:41:43 PM)

Blind Billy on the tram can see the list isn't as strong as required. Sure trading can be complicated and a lot of the times they fall through but to sit there and say nah what we got is good enough is stupid, even allowing for developement of younger players. Every year there has to be improvement every year even when you win a flag, to just tread water is to eventually drown.

- Wayne Purcell (posted 13/10/2011 5:43:42 PM)

Too late now but was wrong with offering Hille, Hooker & Gumbleston (all 3 we have coverage for, although would miss Hooker ) to GWS for the 17yo Jaegar O'MEARA - in a couple of years with him & Heppell out of the gudge fed by Watson & Hocking. That is the type of aggression we need. Otherwise same old same old.

- Eric Young (posted 13/10/2011 5:51:33 PM)

Are we evan looking at anyone? Hirdy said he will keep the same list as last year and who didnt prove their spot was gorn. Davey shouldnt be there, Dyson should, Get Toovey!

- Matthew Humphreys (posted 13/10/2011 5:53:59 PM)

I don't know why we just sit around like a stale bottle of p every trade period. Every good kid in the land seems to want to go everywhere except EFC. Do we have a disease or did Sheeds tarnish our reputation with his brilliant deals over 10 years ago. Come on guys. DO SOMETHING!!

- David McGovern (posted 13/10/2011 5:58:16 PM)

im glad some people agree with me on the lovett and fev.... and why not they would have no choice to accept bottom dollar with clauses in their contracts... both really want a return and are unlikely to find a home so lets provide them one at minimal risk. yes our trade record is horrible. no way should we give up a heppell (future cpt.) but maybe a gus and davey for goddard... didnt think barry young in was a bad trade... premiership player and a tough nut... why to carlton seem to get it done alas Judd... also look at krakour to coll... the bloke has been to jail and now gettin the job done... ITS WORTH THE RISK !!

- Ian Welsh (posted 13/10/2011 6:26:20 PM)

Ahh, the temp is learning the subtle nuances of censorship quickly!

- David Husk (posted 13/10/2011 6:36:02 PM)

some of u guys are kidding I'm sure there are 16 other clubs just lineing up to hand us a gun mid fielder for some bloke/s u all think are crap anyway...u get nothing for nothing

- Mark Rose (posted 13/10/2011 7:44:48 PM)

i think we should get rid of dyson and slattery and send them to gws for a couple of kids that can play

- PETER theodosiou (posted 13/10/2011 7:46:07 PM)

We don't need to trade anyone: we have a good list!

- Michael Higgins (posted 13/10/2011 9:14:26 PM)

OH MY GOODNESS! It's easy to understand the frustration of supporters to notice other clubs active and Essendon seemingly doodling-in-the-sand. But the AD/JH/MT trilogy are not whistling in the wind. To trade just for the sake of trading could lead to potential disaster. Unless Bomber supporters wanted to see high profile players traded out, Essendon was never going to be a big player in this trade week. Perhaps on Monday one or two smaller trades might get done.

- Martin Gol (posted 13/10/2011 9:16:47 PM)

ESSENDON ACTIVE! The last time Dons were active in trade week was 2 seasons ago. The success of on-trading pick 16 will be dependent on the indirect part of the trade, pick 24 - Jake Carlisle. This week's trade period has been monopolised by GWS. For what it's worth - Hawthorn have paid overs for Jack Gunston.

- Martin Gol (posted 13/10/2011 10:03:03 PM)

As footballers, Lovett and Fevola in the side would be great and we'd be a 3-4 goal better side, B-U-T....its more than just on-field performance. We've had enough dramas with Hibberd and Hurley over the past couple of years to not want any more. If you read Lloyds book you'd know how a drop off in off-field behaviour can quickly impact upon training, recovery and injury rehab. The EFC just can't afford to take those two on, as good a footballers as they are.

- Daisy Graham (posted 13/10/2011 10:05:48 PM)

IMO it would be a backward step for Essendon to list Brendan Fevola or Andrew Lovett. Among other things they have been out of AFL too long.

- Martin Gol (posted 13/10/2011 10:07:52 PM)

Wow, after reading the 86 posts here what a savaging of Essendon's annual head in the sand, do nothing, approach to trade week. Didn't think there were so many like minded supporters!

- Geoff Cliff (posted 13/10/2011 10:33:42 PM)

yeah stewart, who would u trade to get the guns u are talking about? i'll back the boys we've got coz its the essendon way...i.e. developing legends!

- Davor Stanic (posted 14/10/2011 12:20:35 AM)

Fev a FF at essendon????....hahahahahahaha...whatever!!! get serious!

- Davor Stanic (posted 14/10/2011 12:25:42 AM)

We have an abundance of key backs and that includes Gumbleton if he ever gets fit, outstanding key backman, mediocre forward. Reliable clubman Hooker has no currency, Carlisle's going nowhere, so I hate to say it but WA lads Pears & Myers are the key to any trades of worth. Why not make a play for Ebert and ex-Vic Koby Stevens who is a massive ball accumulater in the WAFL, who's not in Worsfolds favorites. PROACTIVE

- Brett Juka (posted 14/10/2011 1:42:07 AM)

Josh Byrne, mate I'd love to get Goddard to EFC, but StKilda need salary cap relief and Stanton is probably on equal money with his new contract last year when Gold Coast were chasing hard. Monfries back to SA & Davey to join his bro is their only currency, respectively. NO CHANCE BUD

- Brett Juka (posted 14/10/2011 2:08:02 AM)

A bit of hysteria in the supporter ranks methinks; don't we think our coaches have enough acumen to know what we need, what we could get and who we don't want to lose? I'll leave it to them, it's their first real trade period after giving our list a year, I believe they will do their best for EFC.

- Peter Podgornik (posted 14/10/2011 2:30:03 AM)

for god sake ... D.CONNORS FROM RICHMOND WAKE UP THE KID CAN PLAY AND J.RUSSELL FROM CARLTON WANTS TO A BOMBER ...OUT R.DYSON N.LOVETT MURRAY H.SLATTERY C.HOOKER

- jordan jordan (posted 14/10/2011 2:31:28 AM)

trade week is exactly that we seem to be lethargic show no urgency and pay the price year in and out pull all stops out to get mitch clark and fevola and any other proven strong bodied player available time to get real we must bolster our stocks we are far to comfortable at essendon and our young players are controlling our club heaven knows they will take ages before they can really challenge

- Daniel Ellul (posted 14/10/2011 6:30:36 AM)

after a most disappointing finals series which has reflected on our flight plan which would have been considerably more it is not only the supporters paying the price the club is also we will give you something again soon but to quote john kennedy efc'GIVE US SOMETHING" THE OPPORTUNITY IS NOW ALL CLUBS ARE ATTACKING TRADE WEEK AGGRESSIVELY JUST AS ON THE FIELD WE NEED TO BE MORE DESPERATE THEN ALL TO BETTER OURSELVES......SLEEP LATER

- Daniel Ellul (posted 14/10/2011 6:42:22 AM)

Dyson and Slattery to Richmond for Foley. Take a punt on Fevola, if he errs instant dismissal and forfeit of match payments,but if he has got his head right it could be 80 goals odd.

- Wal WARREN (posted 14/10/2011 9:05:56 AM)

Maybe the club doesn't rate Josh or Gunston, why not just get some more coaches.. or draft a couple out..!!!!

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 9:39:02 AM)

It seems as if most people think you can just click you fingers, offer two 2nd round picks and get Scott Pendlebury? We traded and picked up old patch-it players in the early 00's, and look where that got us: down the bottom. We are FINALLY getting a chance to build our own team, and in 12-24 months time you'll all be singing a very different tune.

- Lucas Wheels (posted 14/10/2011 10:17:45 AM)

I don't know about you folks but I get tired of players like Gunston and others requesting the superpowers in Hawthorn, Carlton and Collingwood (and getting them!). 3rd party payments are a major problem. Cap that and then there will be an even playing field.

- Daniel Milford (posted 14/10/2011 10:34:49 AM)

Hmmmm, do you think there is going to be some sort of KIA announcement ?

- daniel stubbs (posted 14/10/2011 11:09:00 AM)

Take Fev - nothing to lose at all. Start him in the 2s and see how he goes. Hurley, crameri, fev up front would be dangerous and it also frees up Carlisle / hurley to play back when necessary.

- Alan Pratt (posted 14/10/2011 11:26:31 AM)

Paul Herbert, you must have forgotten the trade with Freo that landed us both Lloyd and Lucas, two greats of the club.

- Andrew Charlton (posted 14/10/2011 11:48:26 AM)

if we get lovett on top of fev then there goes our mid that we need... unless we make a play for goddard then just grab fev in th draft. we dont really need to participate in trade week unless its for a higher pick

- Ian Welsh (posted 14/10/2011 11:56:22 AM)

I think everyone needs to calm down a little and show some faith in the EFC hierarchy. Remember, the first to talk in a negotiation is immediately on the back foot, so perhaps we are playing this very nicely.

- Andrew Charlton (posted 14/10/2011 11:57:05 AM)

Trade week is a bit of a gamble anyway. It's more luck than better judgement. How many No 1 draft picks have been fizzers and how many lower order draft picks have been outstanding players??

- Paul Fisher (posted 14/10/2011 12:31:39 PM)

always the bridesmaid!

- peter campbell (posted 14/10/2011 12:32:04 PM)

Mark, you have to get over the fact that "KNIGHTMARE" aint here any more mate???

- Ray Brough (posted 14/10/2011 12:34:26 PM)

Baynie, in response to your "FEV" statement,He would be worth the "RISK" as a mature age "ROOKIE" Remember we do have a rookie list Baynie??? Rather than just be ultra negative,( must be that air in Japan again?? ) "YOU" say he is this he is that,But I reckon he would be a very good "FIT" at our club Baynie??? You also failed to mention his good points too Baynie, He can "KICK" goals from anywhere from "OUTSIDE" 50, apart from "HURLS" who else have we got that can do that??? He could also be a potential 50-80 goal kicker???

- Ray Brough (posted 14/10/2011 12:57:28 PM)

Not disappointed with that Ray, but the problem is after spending huge amounts on a super coaching panel & a more mature list with a gun in Heppell they haven't done any better...fact

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 1:06:14 PM)

Ray, I think I am more "over it" than you mate

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 1:10:35 PM)

Common knowledge that the draft is shallow and compromised, and 18 picks would have gone before our first. Trading would probably have been the best way to improve the list this year, but the early delisting of Neagle and Silverlock may have cost us a couple of good bargaining chips. I would be happy to swap a couple of draft picks for a good player - that rules out Fev and Sylvia (not necessarily Lovett but I'd be surprised if Sheeds doesn't pick him up early).

- alec shiffman (posted 14/10/2011 1:25:39 PM)

Is 8th and a NAB cup grand final not any better Mark ? If we had the fitness to keep up the form from early in the season who knows where we could have ended up, it's not like we beat the premiership team this season so maybe you're right and we didn't improve. . . .

- daniel stubbs (posted 14/10/2011 1:32:26 PM)

Get Fev.. he gave us nightmares for years....

- Michael Hanna (posted 14/10/2011 1:49:47 PM)

Calm down people!! If you think about it for just a little bit you will realise that the club has it all in hand. 1) There is nothing and no one that is available and up for trade that we really want. No club out there wants to get rid of a midfielder that would help us and all of the good mids don't want to leave (yet).

- jason judd (posted 14/10/2011 1:58:42 PM)

cont. 2) We don't really have anyone that we want to move on that holds any currency (and be serious, who would pick up Neagle when he has had no impact at Bendigo).3)Bomber has built a premiership list before WITHOUT trading away the hearts and souls of the club and along with Jimmy they will do it again and

- jason judd (posted 14/10/2011 1:59:26 PM)

cont. 4) This year is weak of tradeable players and the need for low draft picks because of a weak draft. Next year is the year as Premium mids are available out of contract and will want to go to a club on the verge of success which, with a little faith from us supporters, is where we will be!!!

- jason judd (posted 14/10/2011 1:59:46 PM)

Why would Essendon not trade??? It is very odd that a "business" which football is now.....we would not find new workers that would help our club??? If you do not we will just keep loosing touch as we do year after year! We are always just off the mark! come on Jimmy

- Michael Hanna (posted 14/10/2011 2:09:07 PM)

Daniel, I am very, very happy Hirdy's back, still not happy the way it was done but we move on, the NAB is irrelevant, practice matches, Both took injury depleted lists to 8th, both got smashed in the final, Knights had the team beating I think, all the teams above us, Hird beat 2+1 draw, both struggled unexcusably V the bottom sides, Knights, 1st year coach, all 1st year assistants, NO help from the club,attacking exciting game plan but NO real defensive plan, Hird, 1st year coach, multi million dollar assistants, unlimited help & extra preseason into players PLUS Heppell, still waiting for a game plan, where have we done better ????

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 2:13:27 PM)

Just because someone agrees or dis-agrees with the comings & goings of the club it doesn't mean they like/dis-like the events or personel, it's good healthy debate with no personalities being maligned, how boring would it be if everyone thought the same, we don't want "YES" personel/supporters, Love to read & appreciate everyone's opinions/ contributions & in some way most have credibility..regards

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 2:55:29 PM)

EITemp, your doin a great job..

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 3:05:55 PM)

Fev & Lovett have fantastic footy ability, both have the X factor to turn a game, both have a bit too much baggage, both have been out of the system for a while, both might just be past the age we need & will be ready to be put to pasture when this list is ready to really push for a flag, both would be cheap pickups, both would be really trying to prove they have turned the corner and would give 100% & might just be the catalyst needed to ignite the bomber charge.. anyone got a crystal ball we can use

- Mark McLachlan (posted 14/10/2011 3:18:28 PM)

Trade week is very frustrating. The days of having a patsy in the market are long gone. All culbs are very astute now when it comes to trading. The problem is that to get something you need to cough up something of equal value, It may be a player(s) pick or combo of both. Unles we are prepared to do that, we are just doing the edging and not cutting the grass.

- Richard Stafford (posted 14/10/2011 3:32:39 PM)

Past behaviors (more often than not) determine current (future)attitudes and actions read; Fevola, Lovett and trade-week (in)action. Fevola: Twice bitten, we should be shy! Lovett: Been there, done that! (Definition of insanity; repeating a behaviour and expecting a different result. Trade-week: Heard it all before, more spin than a merry-go-round.

- Mark Hickleton (posted 14/10/2011 4:06:25 PM)

Michael Hanna. Fev will continue to give us nightmares - especially if he is in the red and black. I would rather see us trade for potential and what we need, a hard mid. I still stick by Martin Gol, go hard for Koby Stevens and send home one of our WA boys (1.Jetta, 2.Gumby, 3.Hooker, 4.Myers,...). We have to have some pain for the gain.

- Brad Scarr (posted 14/10/2011 6:04:38 PM)

Mitch Morton is worth a punt, as is Ladson

- Alan McCready (posted 14/10/2011 6:28:28 PM)

I hope the club is considering two of the finest players that ever played the game (in their top paddocks) in bobby and marg,setting a precedent I know,with one being the first woman,but hell, space saved with a locker,with both feudin',fussin'and fightin' over the same one... Seriously... Good luck with our draft choices Bombers... :-) :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 14/10/2011 6:29:55 PM)

At last, a glimmer of hope from the trading floor. A brand new Toy, possibly. But somehow I feel it will cost us more than two of the draft picks we have available. Still, GC have a glut of that type of player, so who knows. Go for it, Bombers.

- alec shiffman (posted 14/10/2011 8:07:34 PM)

Get FEV!!! I swear I'll but 3 jumpers with his number for me and the kids the day he walks into the club

- Kieran Rimmer (posted 14/10/2011 10:22:16 PM)

just heard we are chasing josh caddy from GC and fevola has a melbourne based club going to put him on min chips as a senior rookie hope its us !!! josh caddy would be great too hope we get that deal done !!

- Ian Welsh (posted 14/10/2011 10:40:34 PM)

Paul Herbert, trading Tony Delaney and Todd Ridley to Fremantle for the 16 year old compensation pick that landed Lloyd and also the pick that landed Lucas wasn't bad. 500 or so games and 1400 or so goals between them. BTW the trade you are referring to also included Neale Daniher

- James Lowrie (posted 14/10/2011 11:27:22 PM)

Yeah come on Bombers get active! Jetta and pick #41 for Rosa (WCE) Bellchambers to Hawks for pick #33 Hooker and #19 to Bulldogs for Ryan Griffen...we would have the $$$ to pay him what he is worth.

- Brent May (posted 15/10/2011 12:59:09 AM)

Josh Caddy! Thats more like it. We are having a crack! At what cost though? Ricky Dyson, do they want another ruckman past his best, a few backmen, Josh Jenkins?

- Brad Scarr (posted 15/10/2011 7:34:16 AM)

Well, another year to trade and we seem to sit on the sidelines. Those who are responsible for our list need to have a second look. A prominent forward, as well as midfielders are what we need to boost our team up. Sometimes you need to be a little ruthless.

- Stef Daniels (posted 15/10/2011 8:39:43 AM)

get real folks we have nothing of value to trade to other clubs. Most of us know . that we have had players on our list who would never be good enough to get us to a grand final.Hirdy knows this ,so we have to get good kids,patience is required.we can/t make up for the past 5 years of bad deals in one year.in his first year hirdy picked up heppell,best pick in five years for our club,have some faith folks

- jim young (posted 15/10/2011 9:32:13 AM)

Pears, Myers and a pick to Freo for Stephen Hill? Stanton, Hille and a pick to Doggies for Adam Cooney? Monfries, Slattery and Davey to Port for Daniel Motlop? Any opinions?

- Josh Byrne (posted 15/10/2011 10:45:42 AM)

There's two reasons why I'd love the Caddy deal to work. Firstly, a quality player and quality kid who would fit our needs. Secondly, it may silence the posters who have bagged our club by saying we aren't active. Clearly we are, even if we don't always hear about it. Hope it works, but if it doesn't what has it cost us?

- Wesley Hull (posted 15/10/2011 12:01:22 PM)

Anyone Hird the latest regarding Josh please.??

- Mark McLachlan (posted 15/10/2011 12:46:14 PM)

Well said Mark Hickleton.

- Peter Podgornik (posted 16/10/2011 2:33:22 AM)

WHO is the "1 of our top 5 players" GC is interested in for Caddy.?????, they can have anyone except Hurley, Heppell, Zaha, Hocking, Jobe, Paddy & Stanton..

- Mark McLachlan (posted 16/10/2011 11:44:17 AM)

Caddy ? I thought it was GC's other Josh we were chasing.

- alec shiffman (posted 16/10/2011 11:54:09 AM)

I hope the club can get Josh Caddy a fair deal was put to GC just hope common sense prevails and they accept the trade all there doing is a lot of damage to there own brand . Travis Auld left with the clubs blessing and good luck so fairs fair

- Simon Mayo (posted 16/10/2011 5:03:16 PM)

I for one,dont want a player that puts himself before the team. I dont want a player who one week decides to kick a bag,then the next week has the attitude that he doesnt have to try. There was one thing you could count on with Fev.every second week he would throw one of his tantrums. Hands on hips or not chase. What happened to all that had faith in our coaching staff. The club knows we need a talented midfielder. Diane

- Diane Trask (posted 16/10/2011 10:54:09 PM)

Reason why we never trade because we've got nothing of value to trade! To get a big name to the club, we'd have to trade one of our big names. People, we must get off the "get rid of Stanton" because he's here to stay! Need a foil to help Hurley, Crameri & Gumbleton (if her ever plays), GET FEV for nothing, he mucks up, he's out!! Got nothing to lose because nothing will happen in trade week for us, for crying out loud, desparate stages if o'hailpin is an option!!!!!!!

- Joe Bartolo (posted 16/10/2011 11:03:38 PM)

Richmond could offer their higher pick and out bid us for caddy.!!!!

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 9:31:14 AM)

If Bomber says he "doesn't think Fev will be at Essendon" the after the history there is a good chance he will be

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 9:35:24 AM)

As much as I like Hille, trading him & keeping Jenkins would seem more logical as Hille will be finished in a couple of years when we are a real chance at the flag, where is the common sense in trading the future..??? Paddy can ruck or play key position with Belly & Jenkins as rucks, both show huge potential

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 9:44:34 AM)

Talk of going after Caddy is great to hear. Get it done Bombers!!!

- Andrew Charlton (posted 17/10/2011 10:00:03 AM)

Could Hille be the trade to Brisbane that nets us the pick we need to get Caddy from GC? They need to replace Clarke and we know Vossy likes topping up with old blokes past their best, so maybe that's the answer.

- Andrew Charlton (posted 17/10/2011 10:09:34 AM)

Mark - Richmond have a gun midfield, don't need Caddy. We have to be prepared to lose Josh though if that is part of the deal.

- Brad Scarr (posted 17/10/2011 10:40:58 AM)

Your right Brad, but most of these "guns" are very versitile & can play on ball, attacking HB, wing or forward, no sane club would knock back the chance to get a player like Caddy, puts more pressure on the key players, even talk of Dees going after him, Young Lisle would have been a good pickup

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 11:48:20 AM)

Pies pick up Peter Yagmoor, plus pick 50 for pick 47, that's good trading

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 11:54:59 AM)

Caddy has picked Essendon as his team of preference.His father has heart problems and wants to come home. He would be a good pickup but am not willing to get rid of any of our good players for another good player.GC are playing hardball.Heard we offered pick 19 and a player,the suns knocked that back.They probably want a Heppell and that is not going to happen.Get rid of Pears Josh,are you for real.Diane

- Diane Trask (posted 17/10/2011 12:08:29 PM)

Give them Jenkins and Dyson/Slattery for Caddy that has to be win win for both clubs! We need to get this kid he is a gun and hard and thats what we need in the midfield DESPERATELY! Don't be ignorant like Freo were with Clarke -BE AGGRESIVE and be prepared to give up a couple of players to get what WE NEED!

- Mark Brooker (posted 17/10/2011 1:07:51 PM)

Boths teams need to agree on a deal not just one. Heard they were offering 2 players maybe three.Not saying names incase they dont go. Diane

- Diane Trask (posted 17/10/2011 1:49:12 PM)

Josh Caddy, good choice if you can pull it off

- robyn erlandsen (posted 17/10/2011 1:58:12 PM)

Josh Jenkins to Adelaide for a draft pick.. rumour has it bobby has gone too for nothing because jimmy would not play josh.... Go Bombers 2012!!

- Noel Shields (posted 17/10/2011 2:00:21 PM)

Jenkins to upgrade a pick by ten places in this draft ???? Not a good trade, Bombers.

- alec shiffman (posted 17/10/2011 2:01:01 PM)

Absolutely pathetic effort, trading Jenkins & pick 41 for pick 31, HOW does that help the club go forward, it's a wonder they didn't trade more top players out, what super coaching panel..!!!

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 2:06:22 PM)

Disappointing yet again in trade week! What is the point of giving Jenkins away to gain 10 spots in a comprimised draft?If the Caddy deal couldn't be done we should of kept him! Anyway I strongly suggest we take Hutchings from West Perth who was on St Kilda list- he has beaten all the youngsters in testing and has the mature body we need in the midfield-DON"T BE asleep this time Bombers-can get him with pick in third round no doubt!

- Mark Brooker (posted 17/10/2011 2:07:41 PM)

Maybe the club just thinks the new beaut headquarters will have top players built in, they should look at the successful clubs as far as using the trade week to improve the list NOT weaken it, what good are late picks in a shallow draft, we have probably 10-15 players who would struggle to make any other list, harsh, maybe, but true

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 2:12:09 PM)

Clue was there,when he went over to Adelaide to be health & fitness tested... Gee good people,maybe he wanted to go there??!!.. read between the lines and don't take it out on the Club..!! Josh gonna put footprints all over Belly & Joe Daniher for the chance to play alongside Paddy,when the time arrives for Big Dave to be rested/retire.. imo don't think so... Hirdy/Bomber/Dods have made a decision,can we focus on that with some vibes of positivity,or at least try... :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 17/10/2011 2:44:10 PM)