Jenkins traded to Adelaide

you've got to be joking. we wait to last minute and strike a deal like this? whoever made the decision should be traded themselves.

- kristian zach (posted 17/10/2011 2:52:32 PM)

This deal is not what we needed moving forward. We have failed once again to get a quality midfielder which is quite simply not good enough. Ralph, Thomastown.

- Ralph Ralph (posted 17/10/2011 2:54:35 PM)

Clue was there,when he went over to Adelaide to be health & fitness tested... Gee good people,maybe he wanted to go there??!!.. read between the lines and don't take it out on the Club..!! Josh gonna put footprints all over Belly & Joe Daniher for the chance to play alongside Paddy,when the time arrives for Big Dave to be rested/retire.. imo don't think so... Hirdy/Bomber/Dods have made a decision,can we focus on that with some vibes of positivity,or at least try... :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 17/10/2011 2:54:42 PM)

sounds like we made a trade just for the sake of it. this kid could have been worth more in a years time. Also shame about not able to get caddy really! we missed out on a good opportunity for a midfielder. just what we always say we need.

- David Stewart (posted 17/10/2011 2:54:59 PM)

What Happened to Caddy? Why can't we seem to get any good deals across the line?

- Cameron Tout (posted 17/10/2011 2:55:01 PM)

I thought with Bomber and Hirdy that some tough decisions will be made??? But Jenkins... The bloke didnt even get a game. I hope he becomes a star Ruckman for Adelaide. What happened to Caddy?

- Michael Hanna (posted 17/10/2011 2:56:49 PM)

worst trade ever. not happy too angry. should have done better. B Bomber said that we're gonna pull a fish out trade week. none whatsoever. Go Bendigo and Essendon reserves.

- al Catraz (posted 17/10/2011 2:56:53 PM)

settle up Kristian, we didnt have a senior spot for him. He gets to play senior footy now, and we get picks for the trade. Im a little disappointed that we couldnt snare caddy. But tbh, he is hot property. Im sure we did everything we could. He is out of contract after this year anyway, so Im sure he will be on the radar next trade. week.

- Marc Collis (posted 17/10/2011 2:57:26 PM)

We let a good one go there. Sometimes, those in charge have to bite the bullet and move on older ruckman whose best is well behind them and keep a talented kid who will take all before him at Adelaide.

- Mary Tovey (posted 17/10/2011 3:01:02 PM)

We gave Josh away AND pick 41 in exchange for pick 31??? Are we living in opposite world or something? What happened to chasing Caddy for the midfield boost?

- Brendan Burnie (posted 17/10/2011 3:01:06 PM)

Sick & tired of people criticising the EFC for lack of trades. They clearly tried to get Caddy all trade week but did not have a low enough trade pick to offer. The trade of jenkins for a pick 31 (10 places higher) for a rooky listed ruckman when we already have 3 good rucks and another (Joe Daniher) joining us next year was a good trade for us. I would have loved to have got Caddy, but I would not have been happy to give up Melksham, Pears, Hocking or Zaharakis plus our first round trade pick for him !!

- Charles Taylor (posted 17/10/2011 3:01:13 PM)

he looked a good prospect but we have a few rucks so we can use pick 31 & see if we can get another midfielder, l am pleased we kept Gumby & Hooker, l think Hooker is much better than some in the press think he is, he just had hamstring injuries in the last 1/2 of the season

- Doug Pridham (posted 17/10/2011 3:02:01 PM)

Noel, it's OK calling for a positive outlook - when there's something to be positive about What a disgraceful day for us all - we don't get Caddy (he was pick 7 last year why would we think they'd be happy with pick 19 and an average player ?) And then we give up one of the most promising ruckman instead of culling our most senior inconsistent ruckman to create a space for him on the list.

- Mary Tovey (posted 17/10/2011 3:07:31 PM)

Another trade week gone and another midfielder not wanting anything to do with us. Caddy, Ball, Mundy, Judd, rischetelli and Burgoyne just to name a few. Now with pick 19 we will be lucky to get anyone worth having. Very disappointed again this year.

- Brock Wright (posted 17/10/2011 3:08:07 PM)

We went through mediation with the Caddy trade! If they hadn't tried then you can say things and kick up your hooves! But they went for an untried midfielder who has been injured and didnt snare hime. At least they tried! Go Bombers, lets got for him next season, when he is uncontracted! On another note, Jenkins for an upgrade in pick and our 41, im not too sure was good for us. I think we're looking toward PSD!

- Hardip Bassi (posted 17/10/2011 3:09:21 PM)

Doug Pridham, you're getting a bit ahad of youself there ! Who said anything about trading Zaharakis, Melksham or Pears ? No-one that I know of.

- Mary Tovey (posted 17/10/2011 3:11:22 PM)

Noel and Charles. What will you say next year when we get slaughtered in the midfield. We have failed once again (Mundy last year) Wake up to yourselves. Ralph

- Ralph Ralph (posted 17/10/2011 3:12:02 PM)

As Usual The Essendon Football Club Recruiters have FAILED its Members.Dadoro and Company MUST ALL BE SACKED.

- Mark Ashley (posted 17/10/2011 3:12:19 PM)

Again we are too negative and lose out again in trade week! What was the point of giving up a no 12 rookie in Jenkins to gain 10 spots in a compromised draft??? We should of kept him when the Caddy deal couldn't be done.Now do the club a favour and pick up HUTCHINGS from West Perth who was a rookie at St Kilsa previously.He is at the draft camp beating all the young guys in all the tests and is a hard body ready to go in the MIDFIELD which is what we need!! Could easily get him with a 2nd or 3rd round pick! HIRDY check him OUT!

- Mark Brooker (posted 17/10/2011 3:12:31 PM)

to add we're going with youth policy yet keep Hille instead. surely Hille has same or more currency than Jenkins.

- kristian zach (posted 17/10/2011 3:12:35 PM)

without a senior game under his belt was a bit disappointing to off load the youngester so early. All the best with the Crows Josh.

- Samantha Whitelaw (posted 17/10/2011 3:12:49 PM)

Caddy will come next yeat on the come home factor! ease up guys, word is he wanted out, as he realised he was number 5 in line! Hope you do well Josh!

- Kaeyl Mckenzie (posted 17/10/2011 3:14:57 PM)

Dont have a problem with this trade, wouldn't have got a senior game at the Dons unless mass injuries to the big men and will get a game for the Crows, win win I reckon. As for Caddy, very, very dissappointed. Did we offer enough for a quality player to fill a position we desperately need filled, doesn't sound like it. Still waiting for the tough decisions to be made, because until they start to be made, we will always linger around the middle of the ladder.

- Andrew Corcoran (posted 17/10/2011 3:15:03 PM)

Charles Taylor says it all. Disappointed we didn't get Caddy, but sure our team did all it could to get him over the line. Cant do the impossible. Certainly wouldn't have given up one of our top 5, which is apparently what Gold Coast wanted.

- Graham Flynn (posted 17/10/2011 3:18:57 PM)

Thankfully the fluff of trade whysteria is over. Caddy only played 2 games for GC in 2011. Against Hawthorn he got 16 disposal and against Melbourne 10 disposals. What we need is a classy midfielder who can get about 20 disposals for us on debut against the Premiers, pace to burn and the brains to set up play, kicks well off both feet, gets the team moving forward fast. I have faith the coaching staff will stumble over him one afternoon soon.

- Thomas Faunce (posted 17/10/2011 3:20:31 PM)

Nice try bombers, maybe next year we can pick him up. Dont give up on him, Caddy is the right type of player we need but you cant sell your soul to get him. Bomber will develop their own talent and will be better for it. Go Dons 2012

- Gregory Abfalter (posted 17/10/2011 3:23:17 PM)

No Caddy, now EFC must draft midfielders with every pick they have this year and give all players on the list who fit that bill a chance to prove themselves. Lets hope Caddy walks next year! Dont fret EFC fans it's just more of the same from the club we love I guess we should be used to it! Obviously EFC didn't want to trade any player of real value and Gold coast didn't want anything we didn't value. EFC had their chace to draft Caddy last year and went with Hepple, look how well that went!!

- Rowan Gerecke (posted 17/10/2011 3:26:48 PM)

It would have been good to get caddy, however I am glad we didn't trade hooker for him because you can't expect fletch to play until he's 50. The club made an effort but we never had the right picks or players to trade. Maybe we should try for him again next year, NOW it's important we use our first 2 picks wisely and make it count,look how the cats got a young gun like Christensen as a late pick and we got longy who's always injured.

- Chris Steffen (posted 17/10/2011 3:27:12 PM)

GC wanted two compo picks for Caddy, we had none. Jenkins wanted to go to Adelaide, getting something for him is better than nothing. Stop complaining people.

- Nigel Jarvis Fullerton (posted 17/10/2011 3:33:41 PM)

we did the best we could with what we had to trade,not one club wanted our guys we put up.We had no hope of getting caddy as gold coast wanted a top ten bomber player & that was not on .There is still some good talent to pick up in the draft,if half of the people going crook opened their eyes they would have seen one on t.v. in the afl final bendigo lost.

- jim young (posted 17/10/2011 3:34:17 PM)

Yea Dodoro must be held accountable, he's been at the club for a long time and just doesnt do enough to get results. Most disapointing thing is we didnt get rid of the players we wanted to. Must choose well with our draft picks. Lets get Fev

- Alan Pratt (posted 17/10/2011 3:37:22 PM)

Robson said he "wished he knew last week that a top 10 pick would be required", well what did he expect would be needed..and this guy runs a multi million dollar club.. no wonder we are floundering..

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 3:41:37 PM)

Mark Tovey you better read again l did not mention any of those players, that was written by Charles Taylor

- Doug Pridham (posted 17/10/2011 3:41:48 PM)

Jenkins plus pick 41 for pick 31 doesn't look great on the surface of it, but I'm happy to put my trust in the club. Could it be that there are 30 to 40 really good draftees out there but then the pool runs dry?

- Luke Smith (posted 17/10/2011 3:42:04 PM)

The fact is with Dyson, Davey,Slattery, Prismall,NLM, Myers and Gumbleton still on the list, a finish at 8th place will be a success in 2012.

- Geoff Cliff (posted 17/10/2011 3:42:35 PM)

Also,caddy was a top 10 pick and a future star but,we have plenty of top 10 picks at our club who haven't become STARS(gumby, Ryder, myers,hurls ,heps + melksham) and that's our biggest problem to date. Of that group hurls and heppell should make it happen,the rest ? Geelong have had almost no top ten picks but have recruited better!

- Chris Steffen (posted 17/10/2011 3:42:46 PM)

rowan essendon didnt have a shot at caddy he went 7 heppell we got at pick 8. and we didnt have to sell our soul to get him... GC wanted a top 10 draft pick we didnt have one to offer it was that simple if they had of told us that at the start of the week we could have maybe picked one up somewhere off of GWS but he will want out next year and he wants to be at EFC obviously and if he doesnt play to much this season hes value will drop and they will in less of a postion to negotiate

- Ian Welsh (posted 17/10/2011 3:44:26 PM)

l would ask all the knockers which of our good players would you give to get caddy as that is what GC wanted l , give the club a break the did there best with what they could offer, lets just stay possitive & keep up the support our club needs not return to bomber bashing of past seasons

- Doug Pridham (posted 17/10/2011 3:47:36 PM)

Wow - get over not ending up with this Caddy guy! Like me I'm sure most of you didn't even know who he was before the trade talk started. Yes, we have had yet another unproductive trade period (no surprise there) but maintain some faith in the club's planning.

- Francis Connolly (posted 17/10/2011 3:48:12 PM)

While it would have been good to get Caddy, you have to be realistic. GC wanted top a top 10 position in the draft. Who do you think that GWS would have taken off us to get it? Paddy? Zaka? Hurley? It had already been said that it would have taken a top 5 player to get that. Can you imagine the uproar if we traded Paddy for a kid who has 2 games and stress fractures. Grow up you knobs and have FAITH!!

- jason judd (posted 17/10/2011 3:48:46 PM)

The club said the "Caddy" deal was the only deal they were looking at, what a load of "tunnel vision" "head in sand" rubbish, if they think our list is only 1 player short of a flag challenge they are in dream land, probably 4-6 players traded & a few not traded would be better than what we have, the Pies "Mac's" only pushed out due to salary cap, take Fletch & Paddy out & we don't have a top 4 key defender

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 3:48:51 PM)

umm.. are we serious here? what ever happened to Caddy?

- Tara Bell (posted 17/10/2011 3:54:03 PM)

Really disapointing not to get caddy - the club was neither here nor there and because of our continued conservatism we miss again. Take a risk essendon!!!

- Alan Pratt (posted 17/10/2011 3:54:50 PM)

jenkins wanted an opportunity to play, can't blame him BUT he could have got some game time in 2012 if someone made a tough decision. i think this annoys us most. also as chris steffen mentioned our drafts have not full-filled their potential and clubs like geelong have much lower picks yet their turn into gold.

- kristian zach (posted 17/10/2011 3:58:00 PM)

Stop whingeing folks. The club has done a good job at the trade table. Getting pick 31 for Jenkins is a good move - his opportunities were limited to say the least. They pitched hard for Caddy which is fair enough, but you can't give up the world for him. Caddy has 'injury' history behind him, so we need to be cautious. With picks 19 and now 31, we can still get a quality midfielder to develop. Our improvement in 2012 needs to come from our current ranks. Hurley, Zaharakis, Stanton, Hocking and even Heppell, all have the capabilities of forcing their way into Mike Sheahan's top 50 next year.

- Craig Tanner (posted 17/10/2011 3:58:32 PM)

How do we know Hille will shape up next year.?, how do we Know Joe D will be a ruck, might be a key forward or not even make it, when do we get him, 2012 or 2013 then 3-4 years to develope him.!!!!, why can't Paddy play CHB, showed V Pies he could do what few others could, no one else in the squad capable of even competing with the best key forwards, Josh had the body build up, had great aerobic capabilities, if they didn't want to lose him as stated, why did they, still 1 year of a 2 year rookie contract

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 4:00:56 PM)

Quit complaining people. Bombers had a red hot go at Caddy, just too bad they wanted 2 first rounders and player for a 2 game veteran. Hope GCFC suffer similar to how the economy did from the GFC! As for jenkins trade, least bombers improved draft position!

- Den Wang (posted 17/10/2011 4:00:59 PM)

I would've liked to see Jenkins played but we have a lot of tall timber in our playing list already. With the advanced pick we got, we can scope out a good midfielder. With the advanced pick we get, we can use it to scope out a player who can help fill in some of the holes in our senior side. It's not all doom and gloom.

- Peter Gassner (posted 17/10/2011 4:03:27 PM)

How is pick 31 any good when the "experts" suggest there is not much in the draft after about 15, sure there will be the odd exception but these guys study & follow the draftees for 2-3 years

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 4:05:09 PM)

Tell Hirdy and Bomber Ralph... to their faces... :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 17/10/2011 4:12:19 PM)

Memo EFC. Stay out of the trading room in future, or at least until we get a decent negotiator.

- alec shiffman (posted 17/10/2011 4:12:39 PM)

Francis Connolly, how could you have not heard of Caddy before the trade week. He went at No. 7, there was a tonne of hype about this kid. Craig Tanner, don't hang your hat on Mike Sheahan's top 50, it's just one blokes opinion and we all know opinions are like a#%holes, everyone has one and they usually stink!!!!

- Andrew Corcoran (posted 17/10/2011 4:13:33 PM)

To all you so called supporters who winge and moan about everything the club does, if you think you can run the club better get your 100 members signatures and have a go!!!

- jamey coles (posted 17/10/2011 4:16:36 PM)

The only way they would have let Caddy go is for either Hurley or Heppell, it was never going to happen

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 4:16:38 PM)

hey guys I would have liked to have Josh Caddy at the club also , we didnt have a top ten pick to offer for all of you complaining prey tell who was it we should have offered gold coast

- stephen o'brien (posted 17/10/2011 4:17:43 PM)

Jenkin's should never been traded but it's good to see him get senior opportunities, absolutely furious we didn't get Caddy, Gold Coast kidding themselves, we'll get him next year when he's out of contract!

- Luke Ferguson (posted 17/10/2011 4:18:19 PM)

To all you lot having a go at the club for the Jenkins and Caddy situations, remember it takes 2 clubs to come to an agreement and the Gold Coast didn`t come to the party, did they. As for big Josh, I`m sure Tom and Paddy can work just fine when Hille is done.

- Cory Williams (posted 17/10/2011 4:21:08 PM)

I am embarrassed by some of the comments. We didn't lose any players off our senior list and managed to upgrade pick 41 to pick 31 and all it cost was a rookie. A ROOKIE! That is a win, a massive win. And let's be serious, all you crying about Caddy hadn't even heard of him until last weekend. Get a grip. Gold Coast wanted one of our stars. Would you give up Zakka, Ryder or Heppell for Caddy, plus pick 19? Didn't think so. Well played Essendon.

- Benjamin Bulmer (posted 17/10/2011 4:21:52 PM)

kidding me after I got this Auto Graph on my jumper words were going around on face book we were after josh caddy from the suns

- MARK JONES (posted 17/10/2011 4:23:11 PM)

not gonna go crazy like some on here, but just the same, once again, nothing doing at Bomberland...

- Jason Dodson (posted 17/10/2011 4:27:07 PM)

and to the clown who said "lets get Fev" give yourself and uppercut mate... a hard one!

- Jason Dodson (posted 17/10/2011 4:30:18 PM)

Wish Jenkins all of the best. I don't get the whining - what were people expecting? From what I've read the Sun's at the start of the week weren't even willing to trade, and by the end of the week, only if we paid over the odds (Top 10 pick + Hooker/another player of value). Jenkin's played a few good games from accounts, but he was also soundly beaten in several and still has a way to go (if he makes it). He's behind some quality rucks in Bellchambers, Ryder, Hille (and later Joe Daniher), so it's only fair we got what we could if he sought after greener pastures. Wishing him the best in the future.

- Nathan Schultz (posted 17/10/2011 4:33:09 PM)

At the end of the day, the Suns were asking to much for Caddy and we were smart enough not give them what they were asking. Caddy still wants to come home to Melbourne to see be with his dad and the suns will not be able to hold him back. We were better off to trade off Josh for a better pick, he was only a rookie, we have enough rucks and sounds like he has discipline issues. So I'm glad the Crows ended up with him. So well done Bombers for playing it smart and standing on your feet.

- Adrian Reynolds (posted 17/10/2011 4:49:30 PM)

C'mon guys. GC wanted a top 10 pick which we don't have. To get one we would have had to give up something special & lose our 19 pick. Our draft picks of the past aren't that bad, Heppell, Hurley, Zaharakis, Colyer, Howlett, Melksham to name a few. Look at what we have got not what we haven't got. Carlton's got a heap of low draft picks in their side & it hasn't gifted them a flag yet!

- Jamie Robinson (posted 17/10/2011 4:58:36 PM)

I say sack most of our supporters. Myth 1 - Players dont want to come to essendon - Not true in this case, Caddy WANTED to be at essendon. Gold Coast refused to let him go. Myth 2 - Dodoro and his team didn't do enough - Rubbish, they spent all morning in mediation trying to do adeal, simple fact is we did not have a top 10 pick to give to GC.

- Andrew Couch (posted 17/10/2011 4:59:43 PM)

I may get hooted out of town and never be allowed to post again, but I think the club did well. Lost a ROOKIE listed 4th ruckman but jumped 10 places in a shallow draft. That's good, but maybe I just don't get it. We threw everything reasonable at Caddy, but greed beat us, not lack of effort. Examine all trades and how many "A" or "B" listers do you see apart from maybe Clark.

- Wesley Hull (posted 17/10/2011 5:00:44 PM)

Francis, Caddy is the player Essendon were hoping would get to pick 8, he went at 7 but we still ended up with an unexpected bonus in Heppell

- Mark McLachlan (posted 17/10/2011 5:15:49 PM)

They did their best regarding the Caddy trade. Gc did not want to trade him for anything less than a top 10 pick or one of our top players. We didn't have a top 10 pick, or were willing to trade the players they wanted. It was a stalemate. Let's look foward to the draft.

- Nicole Da Silva (posted 17/10/2011 5:27:50 PM)

Big deal, we didn't get Caddy, a veteran of two games and a history of stress fractures in his feet. We'll just go the draft and pick our own gun midfielder. Then next year when caddy's out of contract we try to get him again.

- Nicole Da Silva (posted 17/10/2011 5:33:30 PM)

Yet again we miss out, Josh Jenkins wanted to play senior footy, I watched him play a few games at Bendigo and he was a good mark,kick and led well with a awesome vertical leap. I suppose if your not the son of a past bomber you don't get a fair go. Please BOMBERS give Steinberg a crack next year he is a GUN.

- ted big (posted 17/10/2011 5:37:20 PM)

Bad move Essendon, we might have needed a ruck man in the future and why give away a rooky plus a draft pick for just 1 lousy draft pick?

- Adriano Soldaini (posted 17/10/2011 5:50:30 PM)

Welcome to Dodoro's brilliant trading. HeraldSun "recruiting genius Derek Hine doesn't get many wrong." Can we trade Dodoro for Hine???

- KG (posted 17/10/2011 6:06:30 PM)

Can people stop critisizing our great club. Im sure they tried to get Josh Caddy, however Gold Coast were not happy to make the trade so blame them. We dont want to trade good players who will play a role for the Essendon Football Club. We have good coaches around the club now and in them we trust to make the right decisions. Have faith!!!

- zivko kolevski (posted 17/10/2011 6:12:45 PM)

Good luck 2 adelaide & jenkins hope he gets a game. GCS will lose out on being 2 greedy with Caddy, the kid wants 2 come home...He wont play at his best next year if he plays @ all & then he will come back home next year

- Rocky Furina (posted 17/10/2011 6:15:57 PM)

Good luck Josh. You are going to the fruit loops - you will need it! A loss, but good luck to you, loved that you were a fantastic addition to the club this year.

- Brad Scarr (posted 17/10/2011 6:21:51 PM)

Well no point being boring forever. I'd bet good money if we dont take fev someone else will, take a risk if it doesnt work who cares! Have him train away from the group - which excludes his disruptive behaviour. What is there to lose??

- Alan Pratt (posted 17/10/2011 6:28:10 PM)

I am proud Essendon let Jenkins go, he's been offered an opportunity to play somewhere else where it doesn't look like we could. We gained an opportunity to move ten spots up the draft order. As for Caddy shame on them for keeping him, it is a game after all and they could have showed some compassion to the kid, sad we couldn't reasonably meet their request.

- daniel stubbs (posted 17/10/2011 6:38:20 PM)

Benjamin pick 41 to 31 in an average draft is a very minor win... not a massive win by any stretch of the imagination.

- Wayne Purcell (posted 17/10/2011 6:41:22 PM)

As for comments pertaining to someone punching themselves in the face for saying we should get Fev, should i do this because i think it would be a good risk to take, an amazing full forward for a bargain price. If he misbehaves, it won't look bad on Essendon's part because we gave him a chance. If he doesn't we give Hurley more time to develop while Fev gives us a target, also means the oppositions best defender won't be on Hurls's back !

- daniel stubbs (posted 17/10/2011 6:41:45 PM)

Good luck, Josh. Didn't get to see much of you, but wish you well at your new Club. A senior spot wasn't likely in the short-term, given our wealth of talls, so it's probably a good decision for you to go where this is more likely.

- Joan Hill (posted 17/10/2011 6:43:27 PM)

What a yuck trade

- Ollie Walmsley (posted 17/10/2011 6:47:27 PM)

supposedly, our deal wasn't good enough for the suns. they wanted one of our top 5 players, plus pick 19 and possibly another player. get stuffed, good on the bombers for holding tight. if caddy really wants back to vic next year, and we want him, we'll pick him up in trade the pre-season draft next..........

- Rohaan Titus (posted 17/10/2011 6:55:15 PM)

supposedly, the suns wanted one of our top 5 players plus pick 19 and possibly another player. get stuffed, good on the bombers for holding tight. if we really want caddy next year, when he becomes uncontracted, and he still wants to come to back to vic, we'll pick him up in the trade or pre-season draft next year........

- Rohaan Titus (posted 17/10/2011 6:58:06 PM)

Wes!! You loser.. he he he... fancy agreeing with the Club.. hoot hoot... :-) I also agree,we have done ok... Quite a few are carrying on as if that is it (the final list for 2012!!??)...the drafts are still yet to come!! A little list tinkering still on the cards,until the final numbers required are reached. That is it for trade period 2011 only !! When the new free agency comes in there'll be players backwards and forwards all over the place,like rabbits everywhere... :-) :-) The dust in here when all that happens,will be like MK is still o-i-c...Well done EFC. Go Bombers :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 17/10/2011 7:29:16 PM)

Ralph Ralph (posted 17/10/2011 3:12:02 PM Which top 5 Bomber player would you give up for Caddy ?? Our top 5 are Watson, Hurley, Heppell, Zahrakis & Hocking ?? Heppell was drafted at 8 last year & Caddy at 7 !! GC refused our offer unless we included one of our top 5 plus our first round pick !! Would you have traded one of our top 5 plus [ick 19 ?? Yes or No !!! If you want to be a critic, put up that top 5 player you would give for Caddy. I'm glad we didn't deal with GC. There asking price was totaly unreasonable. Go Bombers

- Charles Taylor (posted 17/10/2011 7:38:27 PM)

Ralph Ralph(posted 17/10/2011 3:12:02 PM) What I'll say is that I would not have traded Caddy for one of our top 5 players, no matter how we go. I wish the critics in here would neame the TOP 5 player you would have traded for Caddy plus pick 19 ?? Easy to be crticical of no deal, much harder to name the top 5 player to go and then see how many agree with you in here !!!

- Charles Taylor (posted 17/10/2011 7:41:53 PM)

Why don;t you take your negativity to another club ted big, we don;t want supporters like you. Impatient, unrealistic and clueless. Steinberg didn;t get a game because he is not ready. We all hope to see him play soon as we do with every kid we draft, but it takes patience. Throwing a kid in when he's not ready would be detrimental to his developent and the teams performance.

- Andrew Couch (posted 17/10/2011 8:08:27 PM)

In my world if u want something u go & get it. Want Caddy get him, wanted Hirdy & Bomber went & got them at a 1m cost to the members. Wots the diff. We were weak and thats the way it is cos Stone cold Nev says so.

- Neville Brooker (posted 17/10/2011 8:48:04 PM)

Let the blind see, Caddy was top 5 in the last draft, they were asking for an equal price, does anyone think giving up Dyson Heppell would be a good trade, dream on, does everyone think Gold coast are stupid, get real kids, we were always in there trying, but the price was way too high, next year he will be out of contract, different scenario, maybe a chance then.

- Max Rodwell (posted 17/10/2011 9:16:10 PM)

Josh Jenkins is a donkey with a bit of talent, lets get real he was taken at pick 12 in the rookie draft, how many picks are taken before we even get to the rookie draft, he may well develope into a fairly good player in the future, but we need to wait and see about that, maybe yes maybe no, only time will tell, we couldn't afford to wait that long, that's the sad part of the game, some go on, some fall by the wayside, but the team goes on anyway.

- Max Rodwell (posted 17/10/2011 9:24:14 PM)

Charles Taylor - a voice of reason. In any draft, there are very seldom any really good players up for grabs, mid-fielders or otherwise. People have generally suggested offering some of our best players for trade(totally counter-productive - especially if you only get the unproven Caddy in return) or players they don't want (and neither would anyone else). Our best draft pick is 19. We don't really want to give that up and it is not high enough to be a good bargaining chip anyhow. In the circumstances, our recruiters have done a good job.

- Ian Moore (posted 18/10/2011 12:15:59 AM)

Well said, Jason Jubb, especially your choice of description of the complainers.

- Ian Moore (posted 18/10/2011 12:26:27 AM)

Take a step back and read what has been written. Some of you obviously think you know more about recruiting that the professionals at our club. Honestly you sound like a bunch of fishwives! I was surprised that Josh Jenkins has been traded but he was untried. Some of the comments here make out he is the next great thing! As for Caddy, unfortunately we could not secure the trade. Gold Coast wanted a Top 10 pick for him. Would that have meant trading one of our high profile players because we don't actually have a top 10 position to trade? Remember what position we obtained one James Hird for? Have faith in experienced recruiters. If you can't stand the heat.....

- Rita Sharrock (posted 18/10/2011 12:27:32 AM)

Forget all the Caddy stuff.The real problem is the fact that we don't have the "busuness acumen"to select/find other players that may suit our needs. Look at Sydney / Hawthorn etc ....... Morton will be a terrific buy for the Swans and likewise Gunston for the Hawks. These clubs have forward vision and we just languish along at a pedestrian pace. The recruiting Dept really needs a major overhaul - supporters have totally lost any confidence in your ability to deliver. Same old crap year in year out.

- Terry Kucz (posted 18/10/2011 8:43:25 AM)

Ah Josh! Now our brief conversation at the Crichton makes sense! :) Sad to see you go, but good luck at Adelaide. You made a great contribution to this web site whilst you were with our Club and I did enjoy watching you play at Bendigo games. We all wish you the best as you move forward in your AFL career. Angie x :)

- Angeline Baron (posted 18/10/2011 8:47:16 AM)

They spent all morning mediating, trying to do the impossible, get Caddy for absolutely nothing in return & was Caddy using us to get home.!!! we will see next year just how much he really wanted to come to Essendon, or will the highest bidder win thru..

- Mark McLachlan (posted 18/10/2011 9:36:33 AM)

Most of you guys just want to have a whinge. Grow up. Caddy wanted to get there, but GC played it too hard. They wanted Hurley or a top ten pick (that we simply did not have). So before you criticise the club, answer this one question, would you have been happy for Hurley to go to get Caddy (an untried midfielder with great potential but who has played TWO GAMES)? No, didn't think so.

- Andrew Charlton (posted 18/10/2011 9:45:15 AM)

Charles Taylor, you are on the money mate. Ten picks earlier in round 2 is pretty good for a bloke we picked up at pick 12 in the Rookie Draft (note, 16 other clubs didn't take him the National Draft either).

- Andrew Charlton (posted 18/10/2011 9:46:59 AM)

How many spuds are on here complaining? Would you be happy to offload Hurley to get a 2-game player??? And to improve our draft position by offloading a rookie makes sense to me. Go barrack for the Saints if you want to continually complain. Go us!

- Paul Doig (posted 18/10/2011 10:15:13 AM)

All the best for your future in football Josh.

- Gail Taylor (posted 18/10/2011 10:26:44 AM)

You want you get. You make it happen. Fact is what we do not want no one wants and thats why we are mediocre. Its a business and we are and have been always soft at the trade table. DONT THINK DO!!Ralph.

- Ralph Ralph (posted 18/10/2011 11:32:11 AM)

Without getting out the pencil and paper,I think the good guys are starting to overtake the bad guys in this debate and that is how it should be,some of the comments being made by the bad guys are outlandish,absurd,ridiculous and just plain dumb. Go Dons. :-)

- Bill Carbis (posted 18/10/2011 1:47:38 PM)

There is absolutlely no denying that both in the past and now we are a very conservative club in many ways. Sheedy once told me the club is run at half capacity. How true. Same old same old. RL.

- Ralph Ralph (posted 18/10/2011 2:27:40 PM)

In business goog guys come last.

- Ralph Ralph (posted 18/10/2011 3:01:13 PM)

Ralph, I was as keen as most of us to get Caddy, what draft picks and which players do you think we should have given to the Suns so that they would give him to us?

- Gordon Moss snr (posted 18/10/2011 4:45:38 PM)

As sad as it was to miss out on Caddy, losing Jenkins for such a paltry reward was worse. I thought he had a future here and I hope he goes on to prove those of little faith wrong. Good luck, Josh.

- alec shiffman (posted 18/10/2011 5:32:38 PM)

"In business goog guys come last." Yep, don't want any of them bad eggs around!

- Kris Bayne (posted 18/10/2011 7:20:43 PM)

Jenko, I have followed your progress with interest, and don't blame you for going to Adelaide, seeing they said they will put you straight on their senior list, all the best to you.

- Gordon Moss snr (posted 18/10/2011 11:36:49 PM)

1/ He he... love it Kris :-) In response to the latest fly by nighter about the comment "good guys come last..." I guess most would consider the late Bobby Rose of Collingwood,because of his heartbreaking record of GF losses as "coming last" in the success stakes.. But Bob certainly was tops in the Good Guy stakes,always the modest gentleman and also dedicated himself for life assisting his ailing son Robert,a gifted sportsman cut down in his prime,ending up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life sadly...

- Noel Shields (posted 19/10/2011 2:46:57 AM)

2/ Bob showed the world how to be a winner during his life,although not on the ruthless/challenging/no prisoner scoreboards of VFL Finals results.. Like MK,not everyone is destined to have luck on their side during their careers,but imo being a nice person/good guy deserves just as much respect and admiration as all the others (who imo deserve it),with the way they have behaved graciously and respectfully throughout their lives and careers,with winning records to be envied... Bob Rose,I describe as a good guy who came last,going by Ralph Ralph's logic..

- Noel Shields (posted 19/10/2011 2:48:35 AM)

3/ But I will always remember him as a "winner",and this is from a supporter who does not like the carringbush one little bit... But I love Bob as much as I do King Richard,Hutchy,Coley,Barry Davis,Ken Fraser,Bill Stephen,Hirdy,Bomber,Matty Knights and oodles more,because one could always look up to them as a gentleman,first and foremost,before anything else.. Cheers All :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 19/10/2011 2:51:22 AM)

Unfortunately Daniel Stubbs, it will be Fev on and in Hurl's back. How many times does he crash into his own teammates knees first? And when the ball hits the ground, second efforts? Hurls I think is a better backman. We need more goals out of Leroy, Davey, Monfries, Stants, Jobe and fingers crossed Gumby and Jake are in the gym with Bomber!

- Brad Scarr (posted 19/10/2011 6:31:04 AM)

"Good guys", we should have done a deal with GWS to get what GC wanted. That deal could have been pick 19 and a package of either Dyson, Slattery, Hille, Myers, Davey, McVeigh. I am sure GWS would have been intersted in that. CEO said EFC found out too late what GC wanted hence it did not have enough time to deal with GWS. To me that is a cop out. The club has never delivered at the trade table and you know it. Dont whinge next year when we fall short again.

- Ralph Ralph (posted 19/10/2011 9:20:38 AM)

Geez there are a lot of people on here that don't know anything about football. We traded a bloke who wasn't, and was never going to be on our list, and improved our draft pick from 41 to 31! Why is everyone complaining??? Well played Bombers.

- Morgan Betts (posted 19/10/2011 9:49:24 AM)

I would just like to add an interesting fact to this discussion. Caddy wanted to come to the Bombers, and back to Victoria to be close to his ill father. Gold Coast would not accept anything less than a top 10 pick. In other words they werent interested in letting the kid go period !!as NO Victorian team had a TOP 10 PICK. Says more about the morals of th GC Suns.

- Marc Atkins (posted 19/10/2011 11:03:50 AM)

Suns wanted a top 10 player and had asked for Hurley -Never going to happen -Whi were we going to offer -Zaka,Heppell,Ryder...etc Unfortunately nobody wanted any of our other below average players

- Louis Cypher (posted 19/10/2011 12:02:35 PM)

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Oops,I,m bored

- Bill Carbis (posted 19/10/2011 12:44:28 PM)

1/ He he... love it Kris :-) Latest fly by nighter comments "good guys come last..." I guess most would consider the late Bobby Rose of Collingwood,because of his heartbreaking record of GF losses as "coming last" in the success stakes.. But Bob certainly was tops in the Good Guy stakes,always the modest gentleman and also dedicated himself for life assisting his ailing son Robert,a gifted sportsman cut down in his prime,ending up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life sadly...

- Noel Shields (posted 19/10/2011 3:37:57 PM)

2/ Bob showed the world how to be a winner during his life,although not on the ruthless/challenging/no prisoner scoreboards of VFL Finals results.. Like MK,not everyone is destined to have luck on their side during their careers,but imo being a nice person/good guy deserves just as much respect and admiration as all the others (who imo deserve it),with the way they have behaved graciously and respectfully throughout their lives and careers,with winning records to be envied... Bob Rose,I describe as a good guy who came last,describing him by RR's logic..

- Noel Shields (posted 19/10/2011 3:40:22 PM)

3/ But I will always remember him as a "winner" imo,and this is from a supporter who does not like the carringbush one little bit... But I love Bob as much as I do King Richard,Hutchy,Coley,Barry Davis,Ken Fraser,Bill Stephen,Hirdy,Bomber,Matty Knights and oodles more,because one could always look up to them as a gentleman,first and foremost,before anything else.. Cheers All :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 19/10/2011 3:42:02 PM)

Sorry about clogging up the forum with repeats Folks... Thought the first batch was rejected,because of Ray's new buddy... Go Bombers,good news with another book to come out about the Great John Coleman,being released in the future.I know Bill will appreciate that,and let Humpty (the goog guy)fall off the wall all by himself :-) :-)

- Noel Shields (posted 20/10/2011 12:40:55 PM)

Marc Atkins I 100% agree and that was the first thought i had when i heard what they were doing !

- daniel stubbs (posted 20/10/2011 1:45:56 PM)

People adding young Joe Daniher into the equation remember, he can start playing in 2013, then it takes 3-5 years to develope "talls", (hopefully Joe doesn't have the bad luck with injuries like Darcy & Neale.) by then Hille will have been long gone, Belly might not even make the grade & Paddy will be 29ish, Josh has a strong body, very good aerobic capacity, why recruit a player then trade them out before even trying them out, but I guess with every player drafted from no.1 up it's an educated guess as to how good/bad they will be.. when does the season start again.?? are we there yet.!!!

- Mark McLachlan (posted 20/10/2011 2:03:04 PM)

I think 4-5 top Pies were taken as late rookie picks

- Mark McLachlan (posted 20/10/2011 2:08:30 PM)

Brock, I think, if you read what Caddy's manager said, Caddy did choose Essendon as the club he wanted to go to.. or did I read it wrong, Kris help me !!!!

- Mark McLachlan (posted 20/10/2011 2:26:54 PM)

Sorry, Mark McL, this is the time of year when anyone who reads something carefully, which I know you do, and has a logical and realistic point of view, which etc., is deluded and is inhibiting the growth of the club. Sooooo, yar outta lucky, matey!! HEY - breaking news!! We've just drafted Humpty Dumpty (Bill C. that floored me after a hard day. DOMO!)

- Kris Bayne (posted 20/10/2011 7:08:04 PM)