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McVeigh to miss Collingwood game

Tuesday, 30 June 2009
Jessica Cook for essendonfc.com.au
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Essendon senior player, Mark McVeigh, will not be included in the Bombers' line up for Friday night’s blockbuster against Collingwood due to disciplinary reasons.

Speaking to media today, Matthew Knights said he was disappointed that McVeigh was out socialising on Sunday and failed to attend a training session on Monday.

The 28-year-old will play in the VFL this weekend.

“Mark will not come back into the team this week. Mark was out socialising on Sunday and missed a training session on Monday,” Knights said.

“His preparation has been hindered for this Friday night’s game, so Mark will be playing in the VFL and regain some form and fitness there and will be not come into the seniors this week.

“It is very disappointing, Mark is a quality player and this year he has taken a while to get going because of injury but last year he was sensational for the Essendon Football Club.

“It’s disappointing not to be able to bring him into the line up but that is the way it goes, we have 46 players on our list and they can all play. I’m not fussed who is out there because I know they will do the club proud.

“Mark is really disappointed with it all, but in saying that, he made a choice and he chose his path and as I said he missed a training session which is important to Friday night’s build up.”

To watch the Knights media conference on Bomber.tv click here

Knights said McVeigh would be available for selection the following week.

“We consulted with the leadership group on the decision and we discussed it in terms of a football club and decided it was the way to go,” he said.

“It is just for one match but it’s vital we do this, doesn’t matter if you are a first or second year player or a champion of the club - if you’re not going to get the club trademark right, that professionalism right to prepare yourself to play, then we are not going to pull any punches from anyone."

Knights admitted there is still an injury cloud over Adam McPhee (leg) and that Michael Hurley is not too far away either.

“Adam has to train well today, I spoke him a little while ago, and I said to him that he will have to train full throttle to be put up for selection. So, there is still a big question mark over Adam at this stage,” he said.

“We are keen to give Hurley a chance at some stage, but he needs to earn it, we have Pears and Fletcher down there at the moment, so we will just have to be mindful and will look at the conditions for Friday evening.

“He is certainly going in the right direction Michael, it has been a bit frustrating for him, and he hasn’t played a lot of footy this year because of injuries.

“We are certainly looking at him closely as well as David Myers, Leroy Jetta, Jay Nash and Tyson Slattery. Those guys are all working hard to push up and will potentially come into the mix in the next few weeks.”

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That's two weeks where you've let us down now, Mark. Very disappointing for a senior player. I hope for your sake that the other boys can beat Collingwood otherwise a large portion of blame should be lumped onto your shoulders for causing disruption to the squad.

- Scott Stephenson (posted 30/06/2009 10:54:14 AM)

You'd wanna hope we win, Mark.

- Scott Stephenson (posted 30/06/2009 10:54:47 AM)

Nooooooooo. Very poor decision Matthew Knights. Just when I was starting to change my thinking of you. This will weaken our side, not stregnthen it for our crunch game on Friday night. Collingwood will be absolutley rapt with this news. Spike is one of our best and toughest players at the club. He bleeds red and black for the club and jumper. Again, a very poor decision Knights. Regards Ivar.

- Ivar Biggen (posted 30/06/2009 11:04:04 AM)

Gonna have to un-stitch the No. 10 from my guernsey now. Very, VERY, disappointing macca.

- Roland van Olphen (posted 30/06/2009 11:08:09 AM)

Hey Ivar - i noticed you had no POSITIVE comment after the Cartlon win??! Be dissappointed in McVeigh, not Knights. Spike has led the team, club, supporters down as did Lovett did last year - but look at him now... And Ivar, you game enough to show ur face at next year's family day???!

- FAHMID AHMED (posted 30/06/2009 11:14:31 AM)

the team is bigger than the individual, its attitudes like yours that has allowed carlton and fev to become what they have. well done knighta, poor form spike

- steven hosking (posted 30/06/2009 11:15:35 AM)

Didnt think McVeigh was like this. VERY DISSAPOINTED! Mark has always come across has a very passionate player who bleeds red and black. Every player who misses a training session because they were out socialising deserves to be suspended from playing in the AFL. It happened to Lovett, so has much has I wanted to see Macca playing this week and fill Jobe's spot, it's the right thing to do. Come on Macca, pull your socks up. GO DONS.

- Samantha Kisielis (posted 30/06/2009 11:16:02 AM)

Excuse me Ivar, if we didn't suspend Mark, the media would be all over us in a heartbeat. And not having Mark out their may be a positive. The last 2 times we have beaten Collingwood and Carlton, McVeigh hasn't been there. So, just take it like it is, he was undisciplined and he will miss a week. It did wonders for Lovett.

- Joseph Attard (posted 30/06/2009 11:16:51 AM)

I'm sad he'll miss this Friday, but it just exhibits our club's proffessionalism

- Jeremy Turnbull (posted 30/06/2009 11:18:53 AM)

I am very disappointed that a possible future leader of the club has let the side down again, we will beat collingwood this week because our kids are having a real crack. Wake up spike!!!

- Glenn Ward (posted 30/06/2009 11:23:43 AM)

Ivar,rules is rules buddy!!!.No one player and all that stuff.If Welshy can do a job on Swan then we are almost home.I thought Mark was totally committed to the cause,maybe not!!.

- Garry Booker (posted 30/06/2009 11:23:55 AM)

McVeigh, what are you doing? You went on last week about how disappointed you were to let the team down by getting suspended and then you go and do this?! We need you in the team, and I thought you were serious about wanting to be a future captain of the club and being a role model for the younger players. Very disappointing...

- Julie Lahausse (posted 30/06/2009 11:25:30 AM)

As much as I love Mcveigh as player and as much as I want him to play, he should know better than to do what he did. I hope his stint in the vfl hits hard with him and he comes out against sydney with smoke coming out of his ears! doesn't anyone remember that we did the same thing to lovett against collingwood last year and still smashed them.....good decision knights!

- Dominic Moscatello (posted 30/06/2009 11:27:38 AM)

aaaaaa great decision matthew knights he is not bigger than the club by by marky

- Dave Davo (posted 30/06/2009 11:28:21 AM)

absolutely agree with knights... no player/(s) no matter how senior should be outside the team rules.. keep up the good work knights

- Tailai Zhi (posted 30/06/2009 11:35:50 AM)

well done Knights, as much as I admire Mcveigh for the way he plays, team and individual discipline is more important. We lacked discipline the last few Sheedy years and our lack of wins were a direct result of no discipline. God forbid I am starting to change my opinion of Knights - he might just have "it" as a coach

- Greg Kemp (posted 30/06/2009 11:38:43 AM)

Very disappointing!!! From a senior player!!! he should know better!!! I do like the fact that Jay Nash is getting a look at!!! GO NASHY!!!

- Belinda Purves (posted 30/06/2009 11:39:30 AM)

To Ivar - Thank goodness you don't coach our team, have you ever realised the team is greater than the player? The culture and discipline set at footy clubs is far more important than the potential four points. Certainly the team would be stronger with McVeigh playing, however what kind of message would this send to the rest of the squad especially the younger players? You should be congratulating Knights for being able to make the tough calls which benefit the club, team and entire culture in the long term. Your suggestion is short sighted and uneducated. Wake up to yourself, support your club or go barrack for a team that eats their own.

- Cameron Oliver (posted 30/06/2009 11:39:59 AM)

Ivar, again you demonstrate your lack of understanding of how a professional football club works & needs to set a standard with no exceptions -the player did this NOT Knighta. still waiting for a positive comment on his coaching over the BLUES but that won't happen will it cause your not MAN enough to admit you misjudged him.

- Mark Brooker (posted 30/06/2009 11:40:09 AM)

Ahha, there you go persistent coach bagger, blame him and not the player who stuffed up. Shows how little you truly understand what it takes to build a great team. Mark is one of my favourites, but I fully support this decision, even if it might cost us 2 or 3 goals in the wash up. Long term, we want a hard, tough and disciplined unit, all pushing in the same direction. Not a bunch of individuals...

- Dennis Green (posted 30/06/2009 11:41:12 AM)

Very disappointing! He is supposed to be a leader of the club and he does this when we really need him due to Watson being injured. Great decision by Knighta once again. Sign him up now and give him more money because he deserves it!

- Andrew Cichello (posted 30/06/2009 11:42:38 AM)

This is how a football club of professional champions operate. Shape up or ship out! Good on the coach and leadership group for doing this. Mark- pull your head in because you are very important to the club!!

- David Stewart (posted 30/06/2009 11:49:14 AM)

Incredibly surprising and disappointing that Spike would do this after working so hard to get back. Definitely the right decision by the leadership group though - the same rules must apply to everyone: tough but fair.

- Paul Shelbourn (posted 30/06/2009 11:53:29 AM)

I love you mark, but if you did the wrong thing you need to make up for it tenfold now. Ivar you are a dill, if any player misses training it does not matter who they are, they do not play. If it was good for Lovey its the same for spike

- Gwenda Warfe (posted 30/06/2009 11:54:31 AM)

Please let's stop referring to him as a future captain. Too many times he has let us down with needless suspensions and now this. He never smiles even when he kicks a goal - why is he playing footy.

- Ross Jones (posted 30/06/2009 12:01:59 PM)

mark that is stupid what you have done the past two weeks you have let your team mates the coach and the supporters down it isnt good mate sorry to say this

- Norman Cacciattolo (posted 30/06/2009 12:04:22 PM)

Macca you idiot. Just when we have a chance to get the Coaches nephew out(Slattery) you stuff the deal. The nephew was the only blemish on a great win. Knights your tough stand is good but it has to extend to non-performers

- Neville Brooker (posted 30/06/2009 12:10:48 PM)

Good decision Knighta. This reminds me of the Solly days when he started missing training sessions and we know what happened to him. Pull your head in Mark and please stop this talk of him becoming our next Captain.

- Thomas Dougherty (posted 30/06/2009 12:12:44 PM)

Next captain of the Essendon Footbal club my foot! Forget all the brovado McVeigh exudes - remember that performance he put on in front of the world Rd 22 '08 - He wasn't even the captain and he made a big song and dance on the field about everyone lifting their game to get the club back to where it belongs. Mark, you can play the game but don't get too ahead of yourself, we did take you before Lenny Hayes and I know who I'd rather have. This proves you're certainly not captain material, and with the emergence of the young Bomber midfield, you've now become TRADE BAIT as for as I'm concerned. Matthew Knights, a wonderful decision

- Rowan T (posted 30/06/2009 12:14:42 PM)

So disappointing and surprising from a leader at our club. I can remember when Spike first started with the Bombers and he has grown so much as a player. This is a real backwards step from the future captain, especially after being suspended the week prior. On another note, congratulations Taye Pears on your Rising Star nomination. You were sensational on Friday night with your run off the backline. Pears and Fletcher are a great duo down back!

- nat lippiatt (posted 30/06/2009 12:22:24 PM)

What the hell is wrong with imposing a fine??? Say $5K, $10K, $15K or what ever amount. But to suspend him for such an important game, in my opinion, is crazy. Time will tell and may just prove me right. Regards Ivar.

- Ivar Biggen (posted 30/06/2009 12:28:41 PM)

Matthew Knights is stamping quality all over our list. They are rising with opportunity. Discipline and competition for senior selection has us in the 8 today. Chin up McVeigh - learn, and move forward.

- Wayne Blackler (posted 30/06/2009 12:30:04 PM)

Macca you're a legend, but you stuffed up and I'm sure you'll cop it on the chin and come back better than ever. Thank God most of our supporters aren't like Rowan T. You would rather have Lenny Hayes? Why, because he's travelling better than Macca at the moment? Why not go support the Saints (or Cats) then, if that's the way you see the world. I'll take our boys anyday.

- Luke Smith (posted 30/06/2009 12:33:17 PM)

This is more than disappointing, with our season set to go one way or the other. I'd drop him from the leadership group for the rest of the season. We don't need leaders like this. Promote someone else who puts the club before everything else. Not good enough!

- Nicole Watson (posted 30/06/2009 12:34:23 PM)

Ivar, your stupidity actually makes me cringe. Imposing a fine on Mcveigh only addresses the disciplinary issue, which is only half the problem here. The fact is that spike went on a bender and missed training only 5 days out from a game, and therefore would not be in peak physical condition because of it. A suspension fixes both aspects of the problem. Pull your head in and stop talking about things you don't understand. Knighta, could not be happier with you right now, fantastic job.

- Andrew Harrison (posted 30/06/2009 12:47:51 PM)

I think the reaction by "suppporters" is over the top. I can't recall previous McVeigh indiscretions in nearly 10 years of great service. All young men make a blunder or two. Club made correct decision but the rest of the comments are a waste of breath. Great player, great guy, one indiscretion (caught) leave him alone. Magpies haven't beaten anyone of note, we should be able to knock them off with last week's side (minus Jobe).

- Jim Calmer (posted 30/06/2009 12:55:27 PM)

Ivar. All for the sake of short term glory. Imposing a fine does nothing to the player. This is a statement from the coach and leadership group. We are pulling together as a team not individuals. Look at Carlton, prime examples of indivduals trying to play a team game. It doesn't work. I'd rather have 22 blokes who I know I can count on than 1 bloke who your not sure about, even if he was the best player in the comp. Get on board or go barrack for the BLUES.

- Nathan Crocker (posted 30/06/2009 1:01:17 PM)

Bloody ridiculous Spike. I hope you are reading this and wake up to yourself. You are not only a senior player, you are a leader and one of our most skilled and respected players. The clip of your speech after the round 22 loss to St Kilda last year was inspiring and showed what a great captain you can be. I refuse to right you off as captain but this has to stop. Captaining Essendon is something not to be taken lightly, with names like Reynolds, Daniher and Hird going before you. I know you understand the significance of all this Spike, I just wish you would wake up to it all. Still behind you mate.

- Zak Kardachi (posted 30/06/2009 1:05:19 PM)

Rowan T, you're an idiot. Lenny Hayes has done nothing, and everytime McVeigh is on the field you can't fault him for his courage, dedication and commitment. I have no problem with his striking charge against Melbourne - most of the team is under 25, and someone has to fly the flag for us, which is where McVeigh comes in. And yes, occasionally that will get him into trouble, but so be it. I can't defend his latest cock-up, but I can defend him as a player. He is a true Essendon man and I'll be in his corner no matter what, even if he does occassionally dissapoint.

- Zak Kardachi (posted 30/06/2009 1:11:20 PM)

A great decision to drop him for disciplinary reasons. Our kids are travelling well enough to win this weekend even without Spike, but make no mistakes sports fans this will be the making of Mark McVeigh the captain and if we happen to lose this weekend it will hurt him even more as he will take blame for the loss. However it will make him a more determined focussed player determined to make amends. this is a good decision for our future success..

- Rick Lee (posted 30/06/2009 1:11:22 PM)

Ivar you are the only person who thinks it was wrong of Essendon to suspend him - dont you then think that YOU are wrong? Knights did the right thing - discipline starts within. We can win without Spike, and its not as if us real supporters dont want him to play, but we want him to consider the best for the team, not himself.

- Daniel Grbac (posted 30/06/2009 1:13:57 PM)

This is the right call, no doubt about it. Knights has the team heading in the right direction on and off the field. I also think Lloyd has been a terrific captain to date. I remember when he was appointed he was very big on discipline, and although a close friend of McVeigh's, he would be pleasde with the decision made. Time to step up boys and show these Pies what we're made of.

- Peter Daly (posted 30/06/2009 1:32:22 PM)

If his suspension hadn't already cost him the captaincy, then this surely has. Welsh or Watson for captain post Lloyd.

- Andrew Dunsy (posted 30/06/2009 1:51:05 PM)

Very Poor Mark. You can forget about the captaincy. Pull your bloody finger out mate I thought you were better then this.

- Matthew Holloway (posted 30/06/2009 1:51:46 PM)

Mark, time to pull your head in and start acting like a senior player/leader. I love you as a player but you have let the team down two weeks in a row. Time to repay the faith back to the team and supporters by growing up!

- Tina Saccone (posted 30/06/2009 1:59:24 PM)

Glad to see one rule for all - unlike other clubs who have one rule for stars and one for rookies..(eg our opponents this week and last week). On the AFL website it said Mark informed the club prior to Monday that he would unavailable for training. I would be interested to know how and to who Mark told he would be missing training and what he got told then... did he still miss training after being told he would be punished? Did they tell him that was ok, then go back on their word and punish him???

- Luke Scott (posted 30/06/2009 2:00:57 PM)

Gee that hurts I really love Spike but I would say he has kissed his chances of ever captaining our great club goodbye

- Matt Wilson (posted 30/06/2009 2:01:39 PM)

What can I say, I am really disappointed in Mark/Spike and hope there was good reason behind it, something we will never know! I believe a lot of you should get off your high horse and give the guy the credit he deserves instead of kicking him while he's down. The outstanding service he has given the club over the years is exceptional.

- Lois Broad (posted 30/06/2009 2:01:57 PM)

Oh this really hurts us. If McVeigh was gutted to miss last week then he should get out the clothes pegs and hang his innards along the Allan T. Hird Stand. His presence in the team is SO important, not only in the run to a possible finals spot, but also this week with Watson out and the 'Pies itching for this game. What on earth was he thinking?! Correct call by Knights but he should also sit him at the back of the bench on Friday so it really sinks in. (And I keep saying it, but Ivar Biggen is the insidious Blue, 'Ted Hopkins of Kew', ignore him.)

- Kris Bayne (posted 30/06/2009 2:02:23 PM)

Ivar, after your OK comment on friday nights big win I thought you may have finally turned the corner and won some friends back, but you haven`t. You should know Essendons stand on situations like this is very professional. It was not just Knightsy`s call, it was also made by the leadership group, and fines don`t justify the offence. Most players have pretty good salary`s, so a fine is like peanuts to them. Spike stuffed up, not Knights or the rest of the boys. Rowan T, your full of it aswell. McVeigh as trade bait you say, (you have got to be kidding). Get it right Lenny lover.

- Cory Williams (posted 30/06/2009 2:05:54 PM)

You do the crime,you do the time, this is the only penalty the club could impose, no special treatment to any player. You can see the results at Geelong by the club not putting up with player misbehaviour. Your got no idea Ivar Smallen

- Gary Culpin (posted 30/06/2009 2:08:44 PM)

Bad form when his career is on the line. Many enhanced clones available. Selfish at the expense of the team. Walk to Bendigo to see what your mates are doing for the team Mark.

- Edward Smith (posted 30/06/2009 2:12:37 PM)

I hope you will learn your lesson this time Mark. Two weeks in a row now you have let your team and fans down. Make sure you get everything right and come back against sydney and prove that you diserve your spot in the team. I hope the team has a win this week to show mark that he is missing out. GO BOMBERS!!!

- chris veal (posted 30/06/2009 2:12:59 PM)

Rather have McVeigh playing than not, all for rules but this penalises the side and effects our chances of beating Collingwood. Discipline him some other way don't weaken the team...Mark R

- Mark Rose (posted 30/06/2009 2:13:34 PM)

Worst part is that Davey will NOT PLAY this weekend. I was at training and he walked laps and had his knew bandaged and iced. Hows this for a non starting midfield. hille, Laycock, McV, Jobe and Davey

- Monster Cork (posted 30/06/2009 2:19:13 PM)

Don't care who plays - just beat the maggots.

- Francis Connolly (posted 30/06/2009 2:36:52 PM)

Ivar Go and barrack for another team. You NEVER! have nothing good to say. Essendon made the right decision on McVeigh.

- Brendan Hurn (posted 30/06/2009 2:40:02 PM)

SPIKE!!! Very disappointing actions over the weekend. Our opponents this week seem to get in the media for all the wrong reasons. We're much better than them. Congratulations Knighta and senior group for taking this action. And Mark, stand infront of the mirror, and take a good look at yourself.

- NicK Tomaras (posted 30/06/2009 2:46:07 PM)

Almost our whole list has embraced what McVeigh said after round 22 last year, except him! I can understand wanting to belt Jared Rivers, but this suspension for being an idiot is immature from Mark. I hope we win for his sake. The other players must be very annoyed and disappointed which cannot help going into the biggest game of the year. Knights has done the right thing again.

- Brett Crabtree (posted 30/06/2009 2:46:52 PM)

team rules are there for a reason suck it in mark and come back bigger and better against sydney i am sure who ever comes in this week will make the most of their chances go bombers

- Tim Ryan (posted 30/06/2009 2:52:30 PM)

McVeigh ..... get it together! Once again "the club" has shown total professionalism by making the correct decision. And if it was the Grand Final eye would expect the same decision.This is what makes "the club" stand out from the rest.......... GO BOMBERS!!!

- Victor Tallis (posted 30/06/2009 2:54:14 PM)

Sorry Zac Kardachi, Luke Smith & Cory Williams, I thought this forum was read and contributed to by OBJECTIVE Bombers supporters. I made a big call, I'll accept the criticism. Gold Coast could have their first "Marquee" player.

- Rowan T (posted 30/06/2009 3:17:30 PM)

first with ivar they cant just fine him because he is in the leadership group which means they will b harder on him because he needs to set an example and knights also needs to show that just because ur mark mcveigh dosnt mean ur auto selection and can do wateva u want. now monster cork ur injury predictions are as accurate as a broken cloke u said prismal wuldnt play and he did just beause hes walking dosnt mean he wont play theyr just lookin after him geeez. go bombers we have done it b4 and we can can do it again

- Nick Holdsworth (posted 30/06/2009 3:25:06 PM)

why now we have an even lower chance of winning matthew nights could of just said the next time that he missed out on training then he will get like 2 weeks off but not in a extremely important game that is crap

- stephanie versace (posted 30/06/2009 3:30:19 PM)

Very dissapointing news, McVeigh is in the leadership group and this is not a good example to set for the young guys. Matthew Knights has done the right thing, those young fellas have earned their spot to play, how would it look if one of them was dropped to make room for McVeigh when he breaches club rules? I am sure that Mark McVeigh, true champ that he is, is very dissapointed in himself and will really redeem himself to his team, club and fans, whom he has let down on this occasion. Go the Mighty Bombers!

- Rita Sharrock (posted 30/06/2009 3:30:44 PM)

I didn't see this coming from the likes of McVeigh. If you ever had aspirations of being captain Mark I think you've just blotted the copybook big time. This isn't the sort of thing you want on your resume. Very, very disappointing. Perhaps you'll be interested in knowing that the 2 Collingwood supporters I have with me at the moment are jumping for joy.

- Adrianne Blainey (posted 30/06/2009 3:46:04 PM)

It is pretty much black and white this one... If you break team rules, you are punished regardless of whether you are Mark McVeigh or Jay Nash. No player is bigger than the club. Mark McVeigh is probably regretting his decision right now. Ivar, you barrack for Collingwood.

- Matthew McPherson (posted 30/06/2009 4:00:40 PM)

Kris Bayne you're on the money with that one. Ted Hopkins has been very quiet due to the Blues lack of form against all teams especially OUR mighty Bombers. It makes perfect sense for an ashamed and humiliated Carlton supporter to pretend to barrack for the MIGHTY BOMBERS. At least he gets to talk about winning games even if he is bagging the coach and players. Good on you team lets knock the Pies for six and move further up the ladder this week. Go Bombers.

- Nathan Crocker (posted 30/06/2009 4:05:09 PM)

To those who think that "true supporters" shouldn't come down too hard on McVeigh. I'm a passionately loyal Bomber tragic and I don't believe for one moment that the club would just decide to suspend him without being fully aware of the facts. So...the bottom line is that however good a player he's been (and still is), he's blundered and must now sit out Friday's game. Football is full time employment and they must all abide by club and team rules whether they are 19 or 29 years old. No excuses if the incident that led to the suspension was self induced.

- Adrianne Blainey (posted 30/06/2009 4:05:11 PM)

You said it one Francis Connolly!!!

- Belinda Purves (posted 30/06/2009 4:06:44 PM)

lets just flog collingwood on friday night

- Tim Ryan (posted 30/06/2009 4:08:59 PM)

Who came up with the idea of club imposed suspensions??? Whether it works as a disciplinary measure to the player involved is regardless. The fact of the matter is, the whole side suffers and we will be weaker for it this week!!!! Just fine the guy 50k and make him cut the other players lawn's for a month...

- Craig Hughes (posted 30/06/2009 4:15:11 PM)

Monster Cork, where do u come up with this stuff??? You should be the team doctor....According to u Davey won't play this week, just like how you were so sure prismall wouldn't play last week.

- Craig Hughes (posted 30/06/2009 4:17:59 PM)

Did we really miss him against Carlton Ivar? Now we have some real competition for spots McVeigh should look out. Gun player but has missed alot of footy and let's face it, recoveries like Welsh's are few and far between. Ivar= clown shoes.

- Daniel Milford (posted 30/06/2009 4:24:41 PM)

I'm actually with you on this one Ivar...Call me what you like, I just want to see us win and we have a better chance of doing that with Mark Mcveigh on the park....

- Craig Hughes (posted 30/06/2009 4:39:18 PM)

McVeigh is a gun and will be sorely missed, especially with Jobe as a huge out. I love Mark McVeigh but I feel the club has made the right decision here. Time for a Bachar Houli or David Myers to step up. Beat this mob Bombers and you nearly guarentee a place in September! GO BOMBERS!

- Matt Grima (posted 30/06/2009 5:01:25 PM)

How could he stuff up 2 weeks in a row .He does this too often. Trying to fly the flag and be too tough when not needed. Trade off to Sydney he can be with his bro and we can use younger fresher legs and experience for younger guys.Sets a bad example for young players. BAD BOY MARKY!!

- Robert Radulovich (posted 30/06/2009 5:16:44 PM)

As I informed you all a couple of weeks ago after his jumper punch on Rivers - get out the McVeigh file and clearly mark it - NEVER EVER TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CAPTAIN. Bleeds red and black when it suits him Ivar!!!

- Craig Tanner (posted 30/06/2009 5:18:09 PM)

If it was good enough for Andrew Lovett, It's good enough for Spike. He has let us down twice with selfish acts in the last fortnight and has probably thrown away the right to be the next captain of our club. Very disappointing, but a good decision by the leadership group. We are the most professional side in the league and need to keep that standard.

- Jane McMenaman (posted 30/06/2009 5:19:01 PM)

Ivar very poor thinking. Mark has let the team down, let himself down and let the supporters down. As they say, you do the crime you do the time. When Andrew Lovett messed up, he got punished and he came back bigger and better. I hope Mark mcVeigh learms from his mistake and never lets this happen again.

- Mary Agius (posted 30/06/2009 5:22:23 PM)

As mark is my favourite player and will always be,it is hard for me to say knights has done the right thing.But for all the supporters who are on his back get off it.He missed a training session,he didnt bash someone,didnt smash a car,urinate at a shop window,hit a fan at a airport & so on.We can win without him & have done.I think we have the depth to cover many players.As for trade bait,your kidding & as for Ivar I dont think he could ever say anything nice about anyone.Ivar you must be a lonely old man.Mark is still a great player so dont write him off.Diane trask

- Diane Trask (posted 30/06/2009 5:40:22 PM)

Mark Mcveigh.why why did you do that for?? i was really looking forward to seeing you play again and beat the pies but THAT AINT GONNA HAPPEN NOW. you let your team down,your fans down. you WERE one of my fav players BUT MATE NOT ANYMORE. i'm DISAPOINTED IN YOU McVeigh.

- Lanie Kufel (posted 30/06/2009 5:41:38 PM)

We need to win this crunch game or our finals hopes are hanging by a thread I expected Mark to come in for Jobe as everyone else did although I'm dissapointed in Spike (maybe future captain)it's good to see all players disiplined seniors or youngsters but I guess if there's a positive it opens a spot a youngster

- Simon Mayo (posted 30/06/2009 5:45:50 PM)

Hey "Spike, what's going on?! I'm very disappointed that you missed that training session & in doing so will miss this week's game against Collingwood, especially after serving a suspension the week before. It doesn't sound like you at all! The Club was right in suspending you for this week but I'm sure no-one could be more disappointed than you are. Hope you learn from this & come back with the dedication to the club, Members & supports that I know you have.

- Sue ONeill (posted 30/06/2009 5:49:57 PM)

You bloody better hope that we win on Friday Mark.

- Matthew Holloway (posted 30/06/2009 5:59:21 PM)

NOT GOOD ENOUGH! I used to think McVeigh would be our next captain but I'm thinking it'll be Watson. Pull your bloody head in!

- Emily Paton (posted 30/06/2009 6:02:54 PM)

I think Iva is copping more flak than Mark!!!!

- Julie Quirk (posted 30/06/2009 6:08:01 PM)

If we lose to the Pies it won't be because one individual, who did the wrong thing, is not playing. Footy is a team game as I'm sure the 22 players who do finally run on to the park will tell you. Mark breached team rules and rightly must pay the penalty.

- Michael Rance (posted 30/06/2009 6:16:54 PM)

Ivor, I agree with others here who have said that fining McVeigh, like you suggested, is ineffective. What Knights has done is excellent. A week or so in the twos should do him some good and trying to earn his spot back in the team, and the respect and trust of his teammates, will be something Mark will need to work on. Very disappointing for someone who is mentaured by the great James Hird and who aspires to be the next Bomber Captain some day.

- Maranatha Sao-Mafiti (posted 30/06/2009 6:33:04 PM)

if the 84-85 side had the same rules they wouldn't have reached the finals as there wouldn't be enough players to fill the team each week

- anastasia Meek (posted 30/06/2009 6:47:49 PM)

very disappointed in u mark!!!!!!!!!! your not my favourite player anymore mate. first melbourne and now this? disgraceful!!!!! you would wanna hope we win this one mate. and you better make up for it

- Sadeq Abbasszadeh (posted 30/06/2009 6:48:14 PM)

obviously, it's all been said already, but very dissapointing from mcveigh. congratulations knighta on a tough decision, but one that will be best for the FUTURE of our great club. c'mon bombers, now smash the pies.

- Dale Vincent (posted 30/06/2009 6:55:53 PM)

HURLEY HURLEY HURLEY YES YES YES!!!! I HOPE HURLEY PLAYS, and then a negative become a positive. I LOVE KNIGHTS for being firm.

- Shannon Hudson (posted 30/06/2009 7:02:52 PM)

there goes ur captin chancers. very unlucky

- jon grima (posted 30/06/2009 7:10:23 PM)

Ivar, you are letting me down now. He has to cop it because he did something wrong and that is his punishment. Rules are rules.

- Jezza Chau (posted 30/06/2009 7:13:12 PM)

We want to play finals and win a premiership. Not just win the next game. That means strong team rules. McVeigh out. Give a young player a chance. Go Knights!

- Kes McCormick (posted 30/06/2009 7:24:04 PM)

Disappointing Mark, you're not a kid.

- Luke Spartalis (posted 30/06/2009 7:24:06 PM)

Recruiters & coaches have put a excellent list together over the last few seasons,but 3 players at the least have to be either traded or delisted.At 29 before the start of next season, is it going to be MARK "PEVERIL" McVEIGH,Sydney or are you going to pull the head in???.To many 50 mtr penalties in the past ,suspensions &now this.NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB .(dont be the next SOLOMON or HISLOP).

- andrew bryce (posted 30/06/2009 7:42:46 PM)

IVAR YOU ARE DEFINATELY A CLOWN, IF WE FOLLOWED YOUR THOUGHTS WE WOULD BE GOING BACKWARDS. EVER HEARD OF TEAM DISCIPLINE OR EVER HEARD OF SENIOR PLAYERS SHOWING EXAMPLES ON HOW THEY SHOULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN FRONT OF THE YOUNG PLAYERS. THESE ARE 2 IMPORTANT THINGS THAT MARK FAILED MESERABLY ON.

- Steve Kantonis (posted 30/06/2009 7:55:00 PM)

very undisciplined spike! give the captaincy to welshy after lloydy.

- David Meiklejohn (posted 30/06/2009 8:01:23 PM)

What were you thinking Mark? Very disappointing, love to watch you play. Play well in the vfl. GO BOMBERS FRIDAY NIGHT

- Marlene Block (posted 30/06/2009 8:16:57 PM)

Why do people assume we will most likely lose cause McVeigh is now not playing. Give guys like Lonergan, Hocking, Dyson some credit...they have won all year for us without McVeigh...no reason to stop believing now.

- Scott McNeice (posted 30/06/2009 8:41:56 PM)

Very disappointing McVeigh - should have known Watson was out so a perfect swap. Now 2 guns down - shame it will now put pressure on some inexperience this week and your potential captaincy asperations

- Wayne Geggie (posted 30/06/2009 9:15:51 PM)

No one is indispensable in Bomber land these day especially when there is a dearth of talent available. We can only win through hard work & discipline. I am sure that Mark McVeigh understands the predicament that he has placed himself into. One more week in the VFL will make him a better person & player

- Winston D'Cruz (posted 30/06/2009 9:28:26 PM)

You just cant not turn up to training and expect no consequences...cop the punishment and come back next week. Sets a great lesson for the whole club..its why we are the greatest club and much better than those weak sods at carlton and god i admire how professional and tough knights is. Mcphee in for watson if fit, if not id bring houli or zaka in.

- Michael Bear (posted 30/06/2009 9:56:20 PM)

Can`t believe what Mark did, even more so with Jobe Watson injured, would have thought it was obvious that his inclusion would be paramount for the big clash this week against Collingwood, as you sow so shall you reap...silly bugger!!

- Barry Coaker (posted 30/06/2009 10:10:22 PM)

just like to add ivar..... love the way matty knights is coaching and treating the players....collingwood are the sort of club that overlook ill disciplined players i.e didak and shaw and this sends a bad message to all the young guys at the club...Matty has always been steadfast in suspending players no matter how valuable to the team and this culture will stand us in good stead in years to come. great work Matty

- Leigh Russell (posted 30/06/2009 10:11:19 PM)

Finally the Bombers are playing football for their team mates and not as individuals. The same goes off the field. Leardership is about making the tough decisions, I am sure everyone would prefer to see the best team on the ground each week. The team is about a group not an individual and is only as strong as it's weakest link. Correct decision made to not play McVeigh, but he will be back, determined to regain the respect he deserves. Well done Pears, playing good footy (with great support).

- Carl Singh (posted 30/06/2009 10:33:34 PM)

Spike! It's as easy as 'ABC'... Knightsy wants you to 'remember the time' when you were 'bad'; to look at 'the man in the mirror' and 'don't stop 'til you get enough'. We have a 'thriller' against the 'black or white' coming up and 'I want you back'. But 'the way you make me feel' following this indiscretion I too would have you 'beat it' back to the twos. 'You are not alone' - Lovett had his turmoil and matured, now you must too. Seriously, you're a champion player, but the club's expectations and culture cannot be trivialised.

- Ross Carlyon (posted 1/07/2009 12:08:16 AM)

Great move by Knighter it's the only choice , do people forget about the problems we had with Cupido and Zantuck it creates bad culture.In my opinion Mark will never be captain of this great club in the future.Jobe to be named captain after Lloyd with consideration to Hille and Andrew Welsh who has great leadership qualities.

- PETER DAVIES (posted 1/07/2009 1:42:16 AM)

Ivar!! u cant be serious with your comments each week!! r u just trying to piss people off? I hope this is the case, otherwise collingwood FC is for you!!

- Damian Lake (posted 1/07/2009 8:52:26 AM)

To all the Muppets who make fun of my name, please feel free to do so. I'm from a European background, hence my name, and proud of it too. I'm a 24 y.o. adult, not like many of you who act like school kids. And to all the Muppets complaining about my posts, well, I have the same right to voice my opinion as all of you do. I call things as I see them. Always have, always will. If you don't agree too bad. Now is a football club about winning games or trying to discipline adults for minor indiscretions??? Missed a training session wow hang him now!!! Regards Ivar.

- Ivar Biggen (posted 1/07/2009 10:13:13 AM)

sam lonergan for next essendon captain, he is the next kirk or voss, mcveigh blew his chance for captaincy, give a young kid the captaincy

- eddie pascoe (posted 1/07/2009 10:42:58 AM)

I`m not sure that making a player who is the spine of the team,stand in the corner , to show who is boss is the right way to go.There must be other ways to pull him into line than penalize the team, who is being punished?Make him shave his head or something of that like.

- Robert Gray (posted 1/07/2009 11:27:51 AM)

Get rid of him! One minute he wants to be the next captain, the next he thinks it's ok to punch someone when we're 7 goals in front, then he goes one step further and disrespects his teammates because he is too good to train with them! Overrated!

- Aaron Wright (posted 1/07/2009 12:20:47 PM)

Congratulations Mathew Knights yours and the leadership team decision to suspend Mark McVeigh was a good one. We have to let our guys know especially our seniors that we are a disciplined club and that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable. Especially when we have such a young side and they need good leadership. I must say I am very disappointed in Mark as he is one of my favorite players. Keep up the good work Mathew Knights you are developing a great team!!!

- Valerie Loweth (posted 1/07/2009 2:05:25 PM)

Ivar, your 24. That explains everything, you need to grow up some more dude. Your comments are not opinions, they are insults to the coach and team. I guess if you coached, your team would be full of ratbags and criminals and the like. Do you want another player to do the same as Spike, thinking he will get away with it. NO of course not. Weak punishment is not the way to go. Professionalism = Premierships.

- Cory Williams (posted 1/07/2009 2:45:43 PM)

Ivar, some of us have no problem with your comments (they amuse me). We are simply 'calling it how we see it too'. The issue as I see it is that you seem to severely critise players and a coach who don't deserve it,(Knights, Skipworth, Dempsey, Slattery) then try to excuse genuine poor form in a club leader????

- Daniel Milford (posted 1/07/2009 3:51:59 PM)

Yes mcviegh did something bad but leave him alone. i think he learnt his lessen MCVEIGH IS NOT THE ONLY GUY IN THE TEAM WE HAVE HEAPS MORE WHO IM SURE THEY CAN LIFT UP AND WE ONCE AGAIN CANT BEAT THE PIES.

- Lanie Kufel (posted 1/07/2009 4:19:04 PM)

It's about winning premierships! If the odd game along the way is sacrificed in the process that delivers us our next flag then I'm 100% behind it...

- Dennis Green (posted 1/07/2009 4:25:41 PM)

I agree with most supporters here. It is the right decision for the club. It sets a standard for all players and creates a feeling of unity and harmony because everybody feels like they are treated equally with nobody immune. McVeigh is responsible enough to understand this and will bounce back better than ever. As for Ivar people- Don't give him the attention he craves. "Ignore it and it will go away."

- Travis Vandermeer (posted 1/07/2009 6:33:40 PM)

Yes Ivar Mark's discretion in the grand scheme of day to day thing's isn't bad. A few drinks a bit of a hangover, happens to all of us. However Mark is a professional footballer. The group who decided to discipline wasn't solely Matthew Knights but Lloyd, Lucas, Watson, Fletcher, Welsh and Hille who I understand form the leadership group. A few years ago Matthew Lloyd made the comment that he was sick of us spiralling downhill because blokes weren't committed or playing up. Cupido, Bullen, Zantuck, Murphy just to name a few.

- Terri Xuereb (posted 1/07/2009 6:41:50 PM)

furthermore Mark McVeigh missed a training session because he was under the weather from drinking a bit too much. It simply means a lack of judgement. But if the club turned a blind eye then the next young influential player will do exactly the same. Ivar seriously, Mark will bounce back, I'm sure this will be a good wake up call that you can't get away with this sort of thing and expect to play with a slap on the wrist. The club has done the right thing and let's face it, we have a lot of really good players coming up through the ranks now, McVeigh is not the only midfielder utility in the club

- Terri Xuereb (posted 1/07/2009 6:48:44 PM)

Ivor, you totally miss the point. Spike is an employee of the Essendon F.C. He gets paid for ppaying football as a professional footballer. Part of that process is called training. Are you getting the drift? Congrats Knighta. Thank God most of us here have principles regarding behaviours expected from professional footballers. Spike, you need to take a long hard look at where you want to go with your football. You're a gifted player wasting talent by poor decisions right now.

- Graeme Blore (posted 1/07/2009 9:10:14 PM)

One of the main, if not THE MAIN reason that an individual, organization, club etc is successfull is because of strong dicipline,well done MATHEW KNIGHTS.

- Patrick, Michael Dimech (posted 1/07/2009 10:01:15 PM)

McVeigh made a mistake. Who hasn't? He's paying the price, as he should. But isn't it time to leave the poor lad alone to sort it out for himself and get on with it! From what I've seen of McVeigh, he is is own harshest critic and will be back doing what he does so very, very well in the match against Sydney. Time to move on folks. Enough is enough. No need for the pillory! Lets look forward to seeing him back in action ASAP instead.

- Rod Hagen (posted 1/07/2009 10:36:31 PM)

grow up mark mcveigh. with all the young guys coming thru you might not be in selection running again this year! houli, zaka, jetta, hurley all want your spot!

- rob davies (posted 1/07/2009 10:47:28 PM)

Good grief, I can't believe some of these comments! Sure the guy has had a brain explosion. Knights has made a very tough decision. The young guns are incredible but how long can their young bodies go on without a rest. Let's not hang Mark McVeigh over it. Possibly a fine like Iva says, I would feel a lot better with McVeigh in the team. He is a valuable asset to our team, no way is he trade bait. Hope he hasn't blown his captaincy aspirations. Come on Mark, come back doubly hard and show the doubters you have the commitment and discipline required.

- Rita Sharrock (posted 1/07/2009 11:38:14 PM)

Great player Spike,but you had to be suspended,if not it leaves the door open for any player to miss a session for any reason,u do the crime u do the time, won't weaken the side as his form when he got reported was not great, Not automatic selection next week as the TEAM has been going ok, "If it aint broke don't fix it" If another player has been showing consistant form with BB, pick players in x form, not x name, well done leadership group..

- Mark McLachlan (posted 2/07/2009 10:11:21 AM)

NOT HAPPY MARK! That's two weeks you've let us down. Luckily the rest of the boys are doing their bit for the team. Go Welshy and Winda!

- A S (posted 2/07/2009 12:57:24 PM)

Essendon have proven this year that we can still win with some big names out of the side. MCviegh has let himself down , especially after his claims to be an up and coming club leader (possibly captain). If the boys just stick to the game plan we shouild be able to get over the line. Can't wait, bring on friday night

- Shane Carmody (posted 2/07/2009 2:18:53 PM)

he should not have done what he done but he did..every1 is putting blame on him and saying that he would hope that we win...there is no i in team and mark doesnt do it all for us..even tho he is a great player.. we will still beat collingwood no matter what.. go Andrew Welsh!!!!! THE BOMBERS WILL SHOW US ALL PROUD...!!!

- Jess Portelli (posted 2/07/2009 9:36:16 PM)

Now i dont play AFL but its professional and tense, Mark was suspended for an act which occurs probably 50 times a year. Get over it fans. He made a mistake, he regrets it, hes our most experienced midfielder and is a vital component of the team. agree the punishment but how dare you call yourselves supporters, a supporter supports? sorry to break it to you all. Anyone who bagged and doubted Mark, shud be ashamed of yourselves. Stick it right up em mark, get best 4 BB and right bak in the 1sts/

- Dan Hines (posted 2/07/2009 11:02:36 PM)

your right Dan all these people are saying is how much of an idiot he is for doing these things but he is a great player a probs a great guy he just made a mistake and we all do that maybe he ruined his chances to be captain but his defiantly a great player and always will be

- stephanie versace (posted 3/07/2009 3:58:52 PM)

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