Q. Is that something you mention to a lot of the young kids now?
A. I think it is important to prepare yourself for life after football - through the traineeships. Football is only going to be a certain part of your life because hopefully you have another 60 years ahead of you. I think that is the key point, that there is such an enormous life after football.
Q. It is hard to explain to a kid that is will be over before they know it, when they are 19, 20 - because they are not thinking that far ahead.
A. It is only normal - as a kid growing up and making it in the AFL, you don't think about those things until later on and sometimes it is too late. But I think it is important to put structures in place earlier on so players get some form of education so they may get opportunities during there football career so it is an easier transition. That is why being at the club it has been a bit easier and having a few roles exposes you to different areas.
Q. Do you think there will be more and more indigenous players at the elite level?
A. I think there will but I certainly think we have a lot of work to do in the transition before the development stage. I think there could be a lot more if we tap into certain areas. It is amazing how powerful football can be - it can be educational, as well as a healthy lifestyle and fitness, as well as training. I suppose that is what it can give to a lot of young kids in aboriginal communities - it is more the opportunities. I think basing it at a younger age for kids - I think you will see a lot more kids coming through and making it in the AFL. I have seen that talent in so many kids over the years and I am thinking - how can we give those kids the opportunities. I have seen so many times when the kids have had the talent and missed out or haven't had the training or the opportunities.
Q. Do you think you have been a pioneer in helping future aboriginal players play AFL and making their mark at the elite level?
A. There have been so many - I could say that about Syd Jackson and Maurice Rioli that they have been pioneers at paving the way and making that transition for us a lot easier. I think it is important that every aboriginal player takes on the responsibility - sometimes you don't realise the effect you do have on kids. It is a lot of pressure but I think it is good pressure to have because you are inspiring these kids to make it.
